Dan Siegel Original

Will Biden Channel Franklin Roosevelt?

The incoming president would do well to study and emulate FDR's bold leadership on the same issues of spiraling inequity the country faces again.

By Dan Siegel / Original to ScheerPost

Some observers have asked recently whether Joe Biden will adopt Franklin Delano Roosevelt as a role model for his presidency. He must do so. The rhetoric and substance of an FDR-style presidency is necessary to create a new United States that can overcome the poverty, polarization, and pessimism of a nation whose recent decades suggest nothing so much as the decline of the Roman Empire.

FDR became president in 1933, a time similar to today. At least 12 million were unemployed, homeless, and hungry. The international situation was deteriorating, frightening, and getting worse. The United States was deeply divided along the lines of class and race.

I have often thought of how FDR eclipsed modern presidents in his leadership and ability to motivate people. Four years of Trump’s ineffectual, angry and divisive presidency has heightened that contrast dramatically. As 2021 begins, the U.S. death total from COVID-19 is approaching 350,000, twice what it might have been had Trump led the nation in taking the simple steps that would have slowed the contagion.

Although times change and history does not repeat itself, many of FDR’s thoughts and words are relevant to the issues Biden will face. Our new President would do well to study FDR and emulate his bold leadership.

FDR promised change when he was nominated for president:

“I pledge you, I pledge myself, to a new deal for the American people.”

FDR, July 2, 1932
President Franlkin D. Roosevelt, left, is greeted by congressman Lyndon Johnson, D-Texas, center, and Texas Gov. James V. Allred, as he steps off the presidential yacht Potomac in Galveston, May 12, 1937. Roosevelt and Johnson, became fast friends when Johnson early pitched into the middle of the battle for Roosevelt’s New Deal. (AP Photo/Gene Smith)

FDR understood the power of words to impact public opinion. More importantly, he followed through on his words. Joe Biden must embrace today’s Green New Deal as a powerful blueprint to save the planet and put millions to work in well-paying jobs. Our divided country needs more than platitudes. The Biden administration must set a hard goal and commit to a schedule to create 10 million new jobs developing clean power, rebuilding the nation’s infrastructure, and extending high quality health care and education for all Americans.

In 1933, the economy was in shambles, and fascism was beginning to rise in Europe. Roosevelt’s predecessor was the pessimistic, reactionary, and dour Herbert Hoover, and the country was desperate. FDR acknowledged the tremendous challenges facing the United States and accepted the responsibility to unite the public to overcome the destruction of the Great Depression. He offered a message of hope that became the catch phrase of his presidency:

“The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”

FDR, inaugural address, March 4, 1933.)

Biden faces serious challenges – COVID-19, the economy in ruins, racial division, and environmental destruction. In his first 100 days, Roosevelt initiated ambitious programs to improve the economy, including legislation to reform the financial services industry and control the banks and Wall Street; provide funds for struggling farmers and prevent farm foreclosures; create job programs such as the Civilian Conservation Corps to involve young people in projects to repair environmental harm and the Works Progress Administration to employ artists to enhance public spaces; and protect homeowners from foreclosures. He attacked the unemployment crisis and emphasized his government’s commitment to social justice for all:

“No country, however rich, can afford the waste of its human resources. Demoralization caused by vast unemployment is our greatest extravagance. Morally, it is the greatest menace to our social order.”

FDR, September 30, 1934

“Among American citizens, there should be no forgotten men and no forgotten races.

FDR, October 26, 1936

The flip side of unemployment and poverty entering the 2020s is the rampant and shameful growth of income inequality. Today, the wealthiest 20 percent of Americans earn more than everyone else combined, and their share of total income increases every year. The share of the nation’s wealth controlled by the richest 20 percent keeps growing. The share controlled by the top 5 percent is growing faster, even during the pandemic.

The Biden administration must develop and implement a plan to address income inequality. The tepid call to “build back better” fails to address the needs of the tens of millions for whom the Obama years were a time of stagnation or decline. A guaranteed annual income should be the first step. The tax structure needs a complete overhaul. Adopting the income tax rates of the 1950s when Republican Dwight Eisenhower was president would be a radical step in the right direction. Restoring inheritance taxes and increasing taxes on capital gains would generate the funds needed for programs to provide every American with housing and a decent standard of living. Effective controls on the financial services industry are needed to protect Americans from another Great Recession.

Reparations must be at the top of the agenda. After 400 years the United States must finally acknowledge and remediate the crimes of slavery and indigenous genocide. The issues go beyond morality. The foundations of this country’s wealth are the theft of slave labor and of indigenous property. Reparations are payback, not charity. Over 150 years ago, Frederick Douglass futilely demanded education, land, and voting rights for former slaves. Repayment, with interest, will finally create a society that is just, secure, and safe for all.

Roosevelt championed civil rights and liberties. Biden should adopt his words to beat back the racism and attacks on democracy promoted by the Trump administration. As FDR said,

“We must scrupulously guard the civil rights and civil liberties of all citizens, whatever their background. We must remember that any oppression, any injustice, any hatred, is a wedge designed to attack our civilization.”

FDR, January 9, 1940

FDR began efforts to protect the environment, using language relevant to today’s climate crisis:

“Men and nature must work hand in hand. The throwing out of balance of the resources of nature throws out of balance also the lives of men.”

FDR, January 24, 1935

Biden must do the same. This is a time for strong leadership, not simply the third term of the Obama administration. The ineffective cap and trade strategy does nothing to reduce pollution and must be discarded. Biden will re-join the Paris climate accord and must plan for carbon neutrality within 20 years. Trump’s decisions to roll back automobile efficiency, eliminate curbs on air and water pollution, and undo protections for endangered species and wilderness must be reversed.

The problems facing the United States in the early 1930s were not simple, and FDR’s social welfare and economic programs did not immediately pull the nation out of poverty. He continued to acknowledge the nation’s difficulties and to rally the public:

“There is a mysterious cycle in human events. To some generations much is given. Of other generations much is expected. This generation of Americans has a rendezvous with history.”

FDR, July 27, 1936

By the time FDR’s second term began, the nation’s economic crisis had actually worsened, driven by the collapse of farming due to sustained drought and unsustainable agricultural practices in the prairie states west of the Mississippi River. Roosevelt focused his efforts on addressing poverty, unemployment, and income inequality. He created the Social Security system, unemployment insurance, workers’ compensation, and laws to protect workers’ rights to organize:

I see one-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clad, ill-nourished. The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

FDR, second inaugural address, January 20, 1937

Creating effective programs is only part of the solution. Thanks in large part to the destructiveness of Trump’s presidency, the United States is bitterly divided on many issues. The challenge for Biden is to step out of his conventional paradigm and convince people that American society can work for them. Trump’s wolf whistles have exacerbated racial, ethnic, and class divisions. Biden must address these issues. More importantly his administration must adopt programs that will convince people that they will share fairly in the nation’s wealth.

By the end of Roosevelt’s life on April 12, 1945, he had led the nation in World War II and helped create the United Nations. His unfulfilled goals for the nation provide a fitting focus for the Biden Administration:

Freedom of Speech

Freedom of Worship

Freedom from Want

Freedom from Fear

FDR, January 6, 1941
Dan Siegel
Dan Siegel

Dan Siegel is a civil rights attorney in Oakland.

Copyright 2020 Dan Siegel

42 comments

  1. Poor Dan Siegel! Biden is no FDR!!!! Not a hope, and the people of today have no real leaders who will force him, as the Unions, the Communist Party, the Socialist Parties and many others joined to ensure that Roosevelt, despite his “class” which thought he had betrayed it, went ahead with measures that were really needed and had a massive impact. Basic wage, pensions for aged people, unemployment benefits, government jobs to build infrastructure- these were provided for the first time by a genuine leader responding to public demand.
    Joe “mastercard” Biden? ? The workers’ friend???? Not likely!!!!

    1. I took it for granted that the author well knew the level of Biden’s vacancy and/or antipathy towards the FDR’s constructivist report card. And appreciated the recent editorial observation that the author was framing. It stimulated a wonderful intensity of incredulousness in those here. Now, can we each hold that precious energy of our incredulity – without allowing diminishment by inner and/or outer stimuli- and redirect that power into fueling the necessary creativity of thought, feeling, intuition, and actions those particulars in the listing we love and commit ourselves most to realizing. Aditi – The goddess of the void teaches that the emptiness teams with limitless potentialities. Whichever presents – depends on your attitude. So, what is your attitude? Mine? Hers? His? Is it willing?

  2. I miss the op-eds that called Trump insane – easier for a reality check when the press goes into full hate mode.

    What we’re reading here isn’t worse perse but far more traumatic because the usual press suspects are taking ownership of insanity – they start with the perfunctory FDR treatment and glaze over the extraordinary 8 years of hell on earth under Obama, pretending racism started 4 years ago.

  3. Siegel spells out what needs to be done, but neglects the fact that Biden, along with the Democratic power elite, is largely responsible for the state the United States is in today. Biden’s policies and record over his political career make it doubtful he will follow FDR in any meaningful way. His policies helped to allow a Trump gain office and going “back to normal “ will escalate our decline. Change may happen, but I doubt it will come from Biden.

    1. Agree, the DNC has been a cancer on the party
      The fossils in power must step aside, the future of everyone & the planet are at stake

  4. There is nothing in Biden’s record or in his choices for advisors and cabinet positions that imply or otherwise indicate he has any intention at all of following in FDR’s footsteps. The role of the Democratic Party under the last two Democratic administrations has been to mollify dissent on the left as rights have been abridged and the country has moved toward increasing totalitarianism. There is nothing I can see in Biden’s record or statements to date that indicate any support at all for the Pollyanna vision laid out in this post. Could it be possible that liberals are still suspending disbelief and allowing themselves to be suckered by promises of “hope” and “change?” How much more abuse do liberals/progressives think they deserve?

    1. Speaking of which, neither Biden nor any of his Right-Wing Neo-Liberal Democratic friends said a thing on behalf of journalist Julian Assange, accused by the US & UK of the crime of honest journalism….And everyone of them applauded the punishment of the other whistleblowers who published the truth about US war crimes.

      1. Channel FDR? Be surprised if he knew who FDR was at this point. Sure he’s better than the apparent reincarnation of Hitler that we just voted out, but he’s a neocon through and through. We’ll be back in some foreign country fomenting regime change through any means necessary faster than HRC got rid of Gaddafi. ISIS had their biggest attack in years last week, Russia had some blatantly fake cyber attack on the US, clearly setting the table for more middle east intervention shortly after Jan 21.

  5. All good ideas but Biden pretty much ran on getting back to and maintaining the status quo. No matter how defective it has been.

      1. Uncle Joe is no FDR. FDR recognized that there has to be some balance of powers in order for the economic and political system to function effectively. That balance has been eroded by the right wing, of both parties ever since FDR stopped being president. Biden is still of the opinion that the system works and encouraging the right types of capitalists will float all boats even higher. FDR saved the system, leaders like Clinton, Obama and Biden will just continue accommodating erosion until they get swept aside by those who want to speed the process.

        I do agree with Chomsky regarding voting for the lesser of two poor choices and adding pressure to get Biden on track. It would be encouraging to see a huge demonstration for progress on January 23.

      2. As others have noted, though, FDR was not “FDR” before he became president.

        If we continue along this road back to 19th-century inequities and the middle class erodes or even collapses, then the ruling class may have to make some moderate accommodations, and let Joe Biden do so. For all the DNC denial, the rise of Bernie and AOC, et al, (and Trump, too, although he is a fake populist) is a clear rebuke to the status quo — no genuine progressive candidate has done as well in the primaries since the death of the Tip O’Neill-era and the peak of the labor movement.

        We should not overstate, either, the effects of the New Deal. We went from being an almost completely laissez-faire capitalist society to one with an extremely modest safety net; it was really WWII which built the middle-class and “labor aristocracy” which gave us all hope we were headed to a more just, equitable society eventually.

  6. Thank you for your clarity on what is being required by the People of Mr. Biden through Roosevelts’s powerful, creative response to the analogous situations of his time. Roosevelt urged us to gage our progress by its evidence among the poor. He meant what he said. Because I see such moral fiber, zest for the Good of All no matter what, and clarity absent in our President-to-be (much more a creature who wants to be liked, and so, less penetrating in all ways), your essay prompts me to ask you to channel FDR for us a little more. Please ask him – absent a President with grit such as himself, what avenues can the People pursue to “manage” him towards the lights that must be reckoned with? Thanks kindly.

  7. He’d do better to channel Huey. It was Huey, not FDR, who had the ideas, the working-class background, and the skill and determination. He stripped the entrenched “planter class” of their power, and brought Louisiana out of the 18th century. Tax-paid textbooks for all kids, good roads and bridges so that farmers could get to market, hospitals, and a first-class university.

    If only Huey had been wearing a vest that day.

  8. Will Biden channel Roosevelt? Gee, I don’t know…

    Was Roosevelt a closed-minded, autocratic, bankster-loving, corporatist and militarist?

    Did Roosevelt look at all the people who were in economic pain and merely shrug and say, “People don’t want a handout”?

    Did Roosevelt support all the bad, even ridiculous, policies that brought about the Depression – and enter office determined to expand and strengthen them?

    Was Roosevelt resistant to facts, statistics, studies, economic and/ or scientific conclusions that contradicted those he embraced?

    Did Roosevelt tell his party’s supporters who tried to disagree with him to shut up?

    “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”
    Yeah… Don’t have to ask about that one, either.

    So glad I won’t be much longer in this sleazy, tottering empire (which so few within it will even recognize as an empire at all).

    1. Will Cracker Joe Biden “channel” FDR? Too much, even for a joke. The author apparently is unaware of Cracker Joe’s actual political career. What next? Will Trump “channel” Jimmy Carter and go out and begin building houses for the poor?

      1. Expressing what you want to happen politically is not the same as naively believing it will happen. I believe the author is laying out a role which is possibly available to Biden, so that he can be judged by this measure. It is framing, a la George Lakoff.

  9. The Democratic party, like the Republicans, care nothing about the interests of the vast majority….Biden, just like Obama and the Clintons before him, cares only about his rich corporate donors and making endless war for the benefit of the weapons corporations….Just look at the rascals Biden has chosen to head his team….There is absolutely no reason to imagine any of this will change….The huge number of down-and-outs who still don’t get it will no doubt put in power another Right-Wing demagogue next time out.

    1. “The huge number of down-and-outs who still don’t get it will no doubt put in power another Right-Wing demagogue next time out.”

      Perhaps, it is the small number of the obscenely monied “who still don’t (and never want nor intend to) get it [who] will no doubt put in power another Right-Wing demagogue next time out.” And do so along with the helpful wealthy neoliberal Old Guard/Corporate Democratic legislators who recently just couldn’t bring themselves to vote for the measly $2000 checks for our jobless (no health care) brothers and sisters (kids and grandchildren) but showed their true colors in helping fatten with their vote the already fat largesse of weapons manufacturers and other war-related corporations rapturously sucking from the trough of public tax monies, aka The Pentagon Budget.

  10. I left a response to Maxine’s comment and suddenly received a cryptic – “that looks like a duplicate” from the site. Notifying me of its automatic deletion. It wasn’t a duplicate. So, in an effort to find out if each person is allowed only one comment, I completed the form and hit submit….and immediately was cued to submit the URL…..which I cannot find anywhere. I currently am a member. Please clarify.

    1. Not sure what happened.

      Currently, we are approving posts by hands. Dark ages, I know…but some folks took advantage to savage others…

      1. Thanks for replying….the more I think about it, the more I feel the author suffers from an extreme case of willful ignorance….Or, is it possible that he really has no idea about Biden’s rotten past and current choice of atrocious Right-Wing clowns to head his administration?….I am even surprised that Robert Scheer allowed such nonsense to appear on his website.

      2. Remember, FDR was hardly some progressive when he became president. He adapted to reality and rose to the situation because, as others have pointed out, progressive forces were brought to bear and even the survival of capitalism seemed to be at stake.

        Dan Siegel, not to be confused with the child psychologist of the same name, has been a leading radical and activist and lawyer for the Left for more than six decades, since joining the civil rights movement as a student at the end of the 50s. One example: He is the one, as student body president, who said “Let’s take the park” at Cal in 1969 that led to the National Guard infamously occupying Berkeley under Gov. Reagan.

        https://alumni.berkeley.edu/california-magazine/just-in/2017-05-24/dan-siegel-free-speech-and-peoples-park-48-years-later

        As a civil rights attorney and local politician in Oakland, he has effectively fought the Democratic Party establishment from their left on issues as wide-ranging as gang injunctions, police brutality, treatment of student protesters, charter schools, neglect of public housing, the need for public banks and the crisis of prison-industrial complex.

        There is ZERO chance that Siegel does not understand who Biden has been and the nature of his appointees. Likely, he believes it is important to speak to a potentially wider audience on social media than those already convinced the Democrats are a lost cause. Again, if you frame things, it may help shift the conversation, over time. For example, the Occupy movement raised awareness for non-political people about the inequity in this country, despite the physical protests petering out, as did BLM regarding racism — the expectations shift (i.e., that cops can/should be prosecuted), which is at least a starting point for change.

        Consider the tactics of Martin Luther King, Jr. and the civil rights groups of his era: He/they demanded things from overtly racist authorities defending the status quo, urging them to change their moral stance immediately. How naive? No, they knew damn well what they were facing in the entrenched Jim Crow south. Like Gandhi, they were making simple, moral arguments first, knowing they would be ignored, then acting to forced that change, using civil disobedience, boycotts and so on to stress the system, build support, mobilize more action, and so on. If you looked at their open letters to those authorities, they might seem hopelessly naive, but of course they were nothing of the sort.

        Clearly, there are hearts and minds to be won. Trump has radicalized quite a few who feel victimized by elites, while Sanders and AOC are reaching many others. I don’t know, scientifically speaking, what the most effective way to shift the country leftwards is, but I do know that Robert Scheer wants this site to be a platform for a variety of approaches, voices, perspectives and forms of presentation and Siegel’s recent essays have fit with that.

        To wit, we are the editorial homebase for Chris Hedges, who obviously takes a very different tact.

        As a certain revolutionary once said, “let a hundred flowers bloom; let a hundred schools of thought contend”.

      3. Many thanks for the lengthy explanation….And yes, Chris Hedges is the best!

  11. The posit is ludicrous. Joe Biden was emplaced in the presidency by Big Donors and the reigning status quo within the Democratic Party, reflected in the DNC/DLC. Those fatcats threatened to support and fund Trump, if Sanders was the nominee. Biden and his handlers accepted and cultivated support from former Bush administration officials and members of the national security state. Purposefully ignoring progressives.

    Biden has neither the talent or intent to resemble FDR in the slightest. To imagine Biden as FDR, is to embrace a cargo cult or to engage in a ghost dance. What can be expected is austerity for the majority of the citizenry and increasing riches for those who lord over us. Biden, after all, acting in concordance with Larry Summers, worked the ropes to tamp down the stimulus checks from $2,000 to $600, a vivid example of what the future holds under a Biden regime. An examination of Biden’s intended cabinet reveals War Hawks and Deficit Hawks, besides representing his more atavistic tendencies.

    This is business as usual and ignores all and any progressive policies. The incoming president is an old codger with serious cognitive deficits and is & was an architect of the present & current state of affairs. His vice-president was vetted and approved by high finance and in her ambitions to achieve office has displayed a very peculiar set of ethics and has accomplished absolutely nothing of note. After almost fifty years in public service as a senator, Joe Biden remains unfit to be president. Joe Biden as FDR, what an insipid notion and almost hallucinatory.

    1. A marvellous comment! For some reason everyone has forgotten that Obama-Biden with their policies and actions led directly to Trump, and their Russophobia, continued persecution of Venezuela, Syria , Bolivia.. and of course support of Israel, means very little change. Now we see that the “verdict” on Julian Assange, where all the false charges against Assange are upheld- all coming from Obama’s resurrection of the century-old law to pretend that it is not freedom of the press being attacked.

      1. Did you post this on the wrong article? I can’t move it but you can resubmit on one of the Assange articles if you like.

  12. No, I just agreed with the previous comment and added the last bit to confirm his likely continuation of bad policies!

  13. What BS. Why did you even give this article space on your platform? It’s like reading bad “ship” fan-written novels! Biden will be a President TO THE RIGHT OF TRUMP! Biden HAS tried four different times to GUT Social Security. He will try again. They will call it chained CPI or they will say they are “saving” SS by making it worthless. Biden is a professional corrupt politician. Trump was, and is, a grifter. Trump is evil and corrupt on an amateur level. Biden, and those he has surrounded himself with, are professional and knowingly corrupt. They KNOW how to pull the levers of power to enrich themselves and to maintain power and that is what they will do. If you expect anything more of them than that you are a fool.

    1. Please define “to the right of Trump”?

      I know, I know — he mouthed some populist rhetoric and some folks got excited. What is one populist thing he actually did?

      I would say the only “progressive” thing Trump did was withdraw some troops from Afghanistan. Other than that, he was far to the right of the Dems on unions, taxes, schools, civil rights, voting rights, immigration, judges, Iran, climate change/the environment, and right on down the line.

      1. Too much to disagree with….Off hand, The Democrats don’t give a damn about Labor….Just like Republicans, they care only about the interests of the Corporations and the very rich….Obama was monstrous when it came to immigration….The Deporter in Chief expelled more human beings than all presidents together before him….He built the cages, tHrump expanded on that…..Both parties are equally insane when it comes to backing the weapons corporations with their endless wars…..Lots more.

      2. The similarities are frightening, to be sure.

        Not sure, though, where Trump is to the left of Biden, which was the topic at hand.

      3. I will. And, btw, I was a dues paying Dem Socialist and Green for over two decades so I’m not some right winger. By to the right of Trump we can look at the things Biden has ACTUALLY done. The crime bill, ending welfare as we know it, NAFTA, TPP, giving China WTO membership with no strings attached, pro-war, pro-torture, did anybody ever call Trump “The MBNA President”? And I would argue he was marginally different on SOME of those items you listed but overall not by much. You seem to think the DNC has anything to do with FDR when, if FDR was alive today, they’d strangle him!
        And Trump had the same shitty environment policy that Obama had, that Biden will have. You have chosen a competent fascist Biden Administration over a lazy incompetent administration that was many things but NOT fascist.

      4. I have chosen nothing of the sort. I supported Bernie Sanders and am appalled that Biden was the choice. Of course the DNC represents Wall Street, etc., and the Clinton’s cynical triangulation strategy is well-known.

        Yet, where in this list do we see that Trump is any different? Did he challenge, in any real way, a single sacred cow of the establishment elites? Of the evangelicals? Of the military industrial complex?

        The Clinton crew looked at a party that was built on the labor movement and the movements of the 60s losing ground as unions, manufacturing and the rust belt were in a terminal tailspin — and looked to Goldman Sachs, Disney, et al, to get them power, abandoning the notion that the Democrats were for the working class.

        Sometimes it seems folks don’t want to admit that Americans themselves play a role in this whole ugly scheme. Middle-class white union workers had embraced Reagan, because of race, religion, jingoism, machismo, etc. The crime bill and the welfare “reform” (of a piddly, bare-bones program to begin with) were WILDLY popular. 100,000 more cops! Bring it on! Poor women going back to work? Great!

        Yes, all the organs of power “manufacture consent,” as we all read. Yet let’s not pretend that Biden is much of a maker of history, he is riding the power currents, just as Trump has. I’ll give Trump this: His was a more creative and zany ride. But he doubled down on huge budgets for the military, fucking around with Syria, ending the peace deal with Iran, destabilizing the Middle East and screwing the Palestinians, pulling the US out of the climate change accords, packing the courts with ideological corporatists and evengelical fascist judges…

        Biden is only going to be FDR or better if and when Americans make him be. The article was reminding people that it happened once, not making any promises it ever will again.

  14. “Did he challenge, in any real way, a single sacred cow of the establishment elites? Of the evangelicals? Of the military industrial complex?”
    Let’s see…. Mattis quit because Trump wouldn’t start WW III in Syria. The Pentagon LIED to the Commander in Chief about how many troops we had in Syria! Trump ORDERED troop drawdowns in Afghanistan and Iraq that the Pentagon ignored as long as possible, then lied about, and then finally partially complied with!
    As to the evangelicals Trump was the FIRST President to ever formally ask EVERY nation we send Ambassadors to legalize homosexuality.
    Was he a good President? Eff no. Was he good compared to Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama? EFF YES! Which is NOT praise for Trump it IS a condemnation of how corrupt and fetid our government is.
    How many more times do I have to prove you are wrong before you acknowledge that I am right? We NEED revolution, not reform.

    1. Trump was an better president than the previous five?

      I think you are on the wrong website, I really do.

  15. On some issues, unfortunately, YES he was. On other issues he was exactly the same. If you don’t know that maybe you should stop “volunteering” and start reading history. And, once again, since you seem to have a hard time understanding this: That is NOT said as a commendation FOR Trump. It is said as CONDEMNATION of how corrupt and diseased our system has become.

    1. Naw, fam, you said he was better and then you laid out the one area which he MIGHT be better (bringing back troops) and ignored all the areas he is much worse — such as the environment, healthcare, schools, taxation, judges, Iran, Israel/Palestine, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Rio accords, democracy… and you apparently also don’t seem to mind that he has taught a generation of young people that a president can be an overt narcissist, racist, sexist bully who boasts of sexually assualting women, mocks the disabled, lies incessently and on and on and on….

      Then you were super rude, again, and making assumptions about my education. I’m done with you. Get a new sign-in and try again.

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