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Hedges: The Lie of American Innocence

Our hypocrisy on war crimes makes a rules-based world, one that abides by international law, impossible.
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By Chris Hedges / Original to ScheerPost

The branding of Vladimir Putin as a war criminal by Joe Biden, who lobbied for the Iraq war and staunchly supported the 20 years of carnage in the Middle East, is one more example of the hypocritical moral posturing sweeping across the United States. It is unclear how anyone would try Putin for war crimes since Russia, like the United States, does not recognize the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court in The Hague. But justice is not the point. Politicians like Biden, who do not accept responsibility for our well-documented war crimes, bolster their moral credentials by demonizing their adversaries. They know the chance of Putin facing justice is zero. And they know their chance of facing justice is the same.

We know who our most recent war criminals are, among others: George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, General Ricardo Sanchez, former CIA Director George Tenet, former Asst. Atty. Gen. Jay Bybee, former Dep. Asst. Atty. Gen. John Yoo, who set up the legal framework to authorize torture; the helicopter pilots who gunned down civilians, including two Reuters journalists, in the “Collateral Murder” video released by WikiLeaks. We have evidence of the crimes they committed.

But, like Putin’s Russia, those who expose these crimes are silenced and persecuted. Julian Assange, even though he is not a US citizen and his WikiLeaks site is not a US-based publication, is charged under the US Espionage Act for making public numerous US war crimes. Assange, currently housed in a high security prison in London, is fighting a losing battle in the British courts to block his extradition to the United States, where he faces 175 years in prison. One set of rules for Russia, another set of rules for the United States. Weeping crocodile tears for the Russian media, which is being heavily censored by Putin, while ignoring the plight of the most important publisher of our generation speaks volumes about how much the ruling class cares about press freedom and truth.

If we demand justice for Ukrainians, as we should, we must also demand justice for the one million people killed — 400,000 of whom were noncombatants — by our invasions, occupations and aerial assaults in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, and Pakistan. We must demand justice for those who were wounded, became sick or died because we destroyed hospitals and infrastructure. We must demand justice for the thousands of soldiers and marines who were killed, and many more who were wounded and are living with lifelong disabilities, in wars launched and sustained on lies. We must demand justice for the 38 million people who have been displaced or become refugees in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, the Philippines, Libya, and Syria, a number that exceeds the total of all those displaced in all wars since 1900, apart from World War II, according to the Watson Institute for International & Public Affairs at Brown University. Tens of millions of people, who had no connection with the attacks of 9/11, were killed, wounded, lost their homes, and saw their lives and their families destroyed because of our war crimes. Who will cry out for them?

Every effort to hold our war criminals accountable has been rebuffed by Congress, by the courts, by the media and by the two ruling political parties. The Center for Constitutional Rights, blocked from bringing cases in US courts against the architects of these preemptive wars, which are defined by post-Nuremberg laws as “criminal wars of aggression,” filed motions in German courts to hold US leaders to account for gross violations of the Geneva Convention, including the sanctioning of torture in black sites such as Guantánamo and Abu Ghraib. 

Those who have the power to enforce the rule of law, to hold our war criminals to account, to atone for our war crimes, direct their moral outrage exclusively at Putin’s Russia. “Intentionally targeting civilians is a war crime,” Secretary of State Anthony Blinken said, condemning Russia for attacking civilian sites, including a hospital, three schools and a boarding school for visually impaired children in the Luhansk region of Ukraine. “These incidents join a long list of attacks on civilian, not military locations, across Ukraine,” he said. Beth Van Schaack, an ambassador-at-large for global criminal justice, will direct the effort at the State Department, Blinken said, to “help international efforts to investigate war crimes and hold those responsible accountable.”

This collective hypocrisy, based on the lies we tell ourselves about ourselves, is accompanied by massive arms shipments to Ukraine. Fueling proxy wars was a specialty of the Cold War. We have returned to the script. If Ukrainians are heroic resistance fighters, what about Iraqis and Afghans, who fought as valiantly and as doggedly against a foreign power that was every bit as savage as Russia? Why weren’t they lionized? Why weren’t sanctions imposed on the United States? Why weren’t those who defended their countries from foreign invasion in the Middle East, including Palestinians under Israeli occupation, also provided with thousands of anti-tank weapons, anti-armor weapons, anti-aircraft weapons, helicopters, Switchblade or “Kamikaze” drones, hundreds of Stinger anti-aircraft systems, Javelin anti-tank missiles, machine guns and millions of rounds of ammunition? Why didn’t Congress rush through a $13.6 billion package to provide military and humanitarian assistance, on top of the $1.2 billion already provided to the Ukrainian military, for them?

Well, we know why. Our war crimes don’t count, and neither do the victims of our war crimes. And this hypocrisy makes a rules-based world, one that abides by international law, impossible.

This hypocrisy is not new. There is no moral difference between the saturation bombing the US carried out on civilian populations since World War II, including in Vietnam and Iraq, and the targeting of urban centers by Russia in Ukraine or the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center. Mass death and fireballs on a city skyline are the calling cards we have left across the globe for decades. Our adversaries do the same. 

The deliberate targeting of civilians, whether in Baghdad, Kyiv, Gaza, or New York City, are all war crimes. The killing of at least 112 Ukrainian children, as of March 19, is an atrocity, but so is the killing of 551 Palestinian children during Israel’s 2014 military assault on Gaza. So is the killing of 230,000 people over the past seven years in Yemen from Saudi bombing campaigns and blockades that have resulted in mass starvation and cholera epidemics. Where were the calls for a no-fly zone over Gaza and Yemen? Imagine how many lives could have been saved.

War crimes demand the same moral judgment and accountability. But they don’t get them. And they don’t get them because we have one set of standards for white Europeans, and another for non-white people around the globe. The western media has turned European and American volunteers flocking to fight in Ukraine into heroes, while Muslims in the west who join resistance groups battling foreign occupiers in the Middle East are criminalized as terrorists. Putin has been ruthless with the press. But so has our ally the de facto Saudi ruler Mohammed bin Salman, who ordered the murder and dismemberment of my friend and colleague Jamal Khashoggi, and who this month oversaw a mass execution of 81 people convicted of criminal offenses. The coverage of Ukraine, especially after spending seven years reporting on Israel’s murderous assaults against the Palestinians, is another example of the racist divide that defines most of the western media. 

World War II began with an understanding, at least by the allies, that employing industrial weapons against civilian populations was a war crime. But within 18 months of the start of the war, the Germans, Americans and British were relentlessly bombing cities. By the end of the war, one-fifth of German homes had been destroyed. One million German civilians were killed or wounded in bombing raids. Seven-and-a-half million Germans were made homeless. The tactic of saturation bombing, or area bombing, which included the firebombing of Dresden, Hamburg and Tokyo, which killed more than 90,000 Japanese civilians in Tokyo and left a million people homeless, and the dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which took the lives of between 129,000 and 226,000 people, most of whom were civilians, had the sole purpose of breaking the morale of the population through mass death and terror. Cities such as Leningrad, Stalingrad, Warsaw, Coventry, Royan, Nanjing and Rotterdam were obliterated. 

It turned the architects of modern war, all of them, into war criminals.

Civilians in every war since have been considered legitimate targets. In the summer of 1965, then-Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara called the bombing raids north of Saigon that left hundreds of thousands of dead an effective means of communication with the government in Hanoi. McNamara, six years before he died, unlike most war criminals, had the capacity for self-reflection. Interviewed in the documentary, “The Fog of War,” he was repentant, not only about targeting Vietnamese civilians but about the aerial targeting of civilians in Japan in World War II, overseen by Air Force General Curtis LeMay.

“LeMay said if we’d lost the war, we’d all have been prosecuted as war criminals,” McNamara said in the film. “And I think he’s right…LeMay recognized that what he was doing would be thought immoral if his side had lost. But what makes it immoral if you lose, and not immoral if you win?”

LeMay, later head of the Strategic Air Command during the Korean War, would go on to drop tons of napalm and firebombs on civilian targets in Korea which, by his own estimate, killed 20 percent of the population over a three-year period.

Industrial killing defines modern warfare. It is impersonal mass slaughter. It is administered by vast bureaucratic structures that perpetuate the killing over months and years. It is sustained by heavy industry that produces a steady flow of weapons, munitions, tanks, planes, helicopters, battleships, submarines, missiles, and mass-produced supplies, along with mechanized transports that ferry troops and armaments by rail, ship, cargo planes and trucks to the battlefield. It mobilizes industrial, governmental and organization structures for total war. It centralizes systems of information and internal control. It is rationalized for the public by specialists and experts, drawn from the military establishment, along with pliant academics and the media.

Industrial war destroys existing value systems that protect and nurture life, replacing them with fear, hatred, and a dehumanization of those who we are made to believe deserve to be exterminated. It is driven by emotions, not truth or fact. It obliterates nuance, replacing it with an infantile binary universe of us and them. It drives competing narratives, ideas and values underground and vilifies all who do not speak in the national cant that replaces civil discourse and debate. It is touted as an example of the inevitable march of human progress, when in fact it brings us closer and closer to mass obliteration in a nuclear holocaust. It mocks the concept of individual heroism, despite the feverish efforts of the military and the mass media to sell this myth to naïve young recruits and a gullible public. It is the Frankenstein of industrialized societies. War, as Alfred Kazin warned, is “the ultimate purpose of technological society.” Our real enemy is within.  

Historically, those who are prosecuted for war crimes, whether the Nazi hierarchy at Nuremberg or the leaders of Liberia, Chad, Serbia, and Bosnia, are prosecuted because they lost the war and because they are adversaries of the United States.

There will be no prosecution of Saudi Arabian rulers for the war crimes committed in Yemen or for the US military and political leadership for the war crimes they carried out in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Libya, or a generation earlier in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos. The atrocities we commit, such as My Lai, where 500 unarmed Vietnamese civilians were gunned down by US soldiers, which are made public, are dealt with by finding a scapegoat, usually a low-ranking officer who is given a symbolic sentence. Lt. William Calley served three years under house arrest for the killings at My Lai. Eleven US soldiers, none of whom were officers, were convicted of torture at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. But the architects and overlords of our industrial slaughter, including Franklin Roosevelt, Winston Churchill, Gen. Curtis LeMay, Harry S. Truman, Richard Nixon, Henry Kissinger, Lyndon Johnson, Gen. William Westmoreland, George W. Bush, Gen. David Petraeus, Barack Obama and Joe Biden are never held to account. They leave power to become venerated elder statesmen. 

The mass slaughter of industrial warfare, the failure to hold ourselves to account, to see our own face in the war criminals we condemn, will have ominous consequences. Author and Holocaust survivor Primo Levi understood that the annihilation of the humanity of others is prerequisite for their physical annihilation. We have become captives to our machines of industrial death. Politicians and generals wield their destructive fury as if they were toys. Those who decry the madness, who demand the rule of law, are attacked and condemned. These industrial weapons systems are our modern idols. We worship their deadly prowess. But all idols, the Bible tells us, begin by demanding the sacrifice of others and end in apocalyptic self-sacrifice.


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Chris Hedges
Chris HedgesChris Hedges is a Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist who was a foreign correspondent for fifteen years for The New York Times, where he served as the Middle East Bureau Chief and Balkan Bureau Chief for the paper. He previously worked overseas for The Dallas Morning NewsThe Christian Science Monitor, and NPR. He is the host of show The Chris Hedges Report.  Author Link

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207 comments

  1. Putin is a war criminal, rightly so. So was Blair and Bush, rounding up the Good oil in the 7 day war. Biden is a chicken with no wings. EU are a toothless tiger.

    1. We do not recall Hedges’ pleadings for peace when the people of Donesnk and Lugansk were for 8 years under a vicious war under NATO and US sponsorship.

      It is just another proclivity of White and Black liberals within empire. Hippocracy!

      1. So there was only one side in that conflict? Nazis vs civilians? Huh. Amazing it could last 8 years…

        Not sure why people think Hedges could or should take up every outrage on planet Earth when he generally broads in sweeping strokes about the structure of systems, narratives and ways of thinking through an historical lens. He didn’t write repeatedly about a copmplex and cynical proxy war between a declining empire and a fallen empire at great extent .. therefore “Hippocracy” … which has something to do with hippos?

      2. Not merely Nazis v civilians. More precisely, it was for eight years an American/NATO backed government of Ukraine with Nazis as the spearhead killing its own people and committing genocide.

      3. Correct. Hedges is a top writer and moralist. Yet even he has his proscribed limits and can’t write an article on US war-crimes and wider criminality without first reinforcing the official memes of Russian aggression and Putin’s alleged war-crimes.

      4. Glad Mr hedges wrote the truth. We can’t because we will not get published word for word unless we find genius ways of getting around sensors

    2. Every president the United States has had was at least a war criminal or a genecidere, a racist or all three. Including Obama, Carter, Kennedy and FDR. All of them! In fact, having a war criminal mentality is a prerequisite.

      Poor Putin. He is a mere Sunday school boy when compared.

  2. Phew, what a great article, i’m left speechless. Having just listened to Roger Waters singing at Belmarsh prison in support of Julian, reading this gives me hope that people will begin to see the truth about the leaders they vote into office. Great work Chris

    1. To Neil+,
      ” …. that people will begin to see the truth about the leaders they vote into office. ”
      I suspect people already know the truth, and have for some time – but they keep voting for the same set of folks, “hoping this time” will be different, even faced with a guy like Biden who came right out and said “Nothing will fundamentally change” – why do “we” do this? I posit because we have been told for so long and so often that, if we choose to vote at all, TINA (there is no alternative) to the duopoly, that “3rd parties can’t win”, that these have been accepted as “truisms” have reached the level of what is considered “common knowledge”, what “everybody knows” when, in fact, this is pure BS – anybody on a ballot can win if enough folks vote for ’em and there ARE better alternatives on the ballot and have been, literally for decades. And the irony is that the PTB (powers that be) that keep whispering this stuff in our ears KNOW they are lies – but they don’t want us to know. But just in case enough of us figure it out, they are doing the best they can to make TINA a fact – ridiculous signature requirements for 3rd party ballot access, keeping them out of debates in case they do manage to get on, and making it harder and harder to get Fed’l Matching funds – all this unnecessary if, in fact, 3rd parties “couldn’t win”

      1. Why do we do this? I’ll explain why, because Hedges certainly doesn’t. We do this because there is no global organizing of the working class to help them understand their immense power to overthrow capitalism. We do this because we believe in ” THE ‘ government and not ” OUR ” government. We do this because too many still believe in the union bureaucracy which has become a bedfellow of the corporations they’re suppose to be protecting their workers from. We do this because we do nothing to stop corporations who force us back into workplaces and schools during a deadly pandemic. We do this because we still believe in nation states and their meaningless cloth flags.
        Hedges believe in the ridiculous fantasy of a more humane capitalism. He rails on and on about the evils of the ruling class without ever offering a way forward out of the morass of the amoral, bankrupt, capitalist world economy, leaving in its wake the ever growing ultra-nationalism which is the direct result of not offering a real socialist alternative, an alternative to the phony DSA and the Stalinists who are nationalists themselves. Hedges will never speak of a socialist alternative because his reality is one skewered by his theological orthodoxy. He is a bush beater, shaking the bush with his pen while he circles the well worn path around it. Never will he jump in and investigate the roots.
        The only way any of this will be done is not through trying to humanize the capitalist vultures but through the collective consciousness of the global working class to control the means of production and distribution. We cannot rely on anyone else to get us there. There is no one looking out for the interests of the working class within OUR government, nor anyone else’s which is corporately owned.

      2. @SH
        Refusing to vote for a 3d party because they “can’t win” is a self-fulfilling prophecy, as I respond to anyone who says that to me. It IS a rigged system and 3d party candidates are very unlikely to win for that and other reasons, but that’s no reason not to vote for them if you agree with them.

        As I’ve said, a change to proportional representation would give us other parties in office if their candidates could get at least 5% of the vote. Virtually all other democracies have this system, so there’s no good reason we can’t have it too. Elimination of private campaign financing would eliminate a lot of the grossly unfair advantage that establishment party candidates have. Again, very few if any democracies allow the buying of elections that goes on in this country, so again there’s no reason we can’t get rid of this illegitimate crap. Fighting for these two things is time, money, and effort much better spent than trying to elect 3d party candidates who have the deck stacked against them. Of course we can and should do both, but our priority and the majority of our resources should be focused on changing to a much more representative system, not the Sisyphean task of electing someone where the deck is stacked against them.

      3. To Jeff,
        And precisely how do we change those things when the folks who established and perpetuate those things are the ones we keep electing to office?

      4. @SH
        Other than what I said, I have no idea. All you can do is vote for candidates other than those of the two gangs, and work for proportional representation and prohibition of private campaign financing. Hold seminars etc. to educate people. Have teach-ins. Etc. All I know is that focusing all of your resources on trying to get 3d party candidates elected in a system heavily rigged against them is a fool’s errand. It’s not that people shouldn’t vote for 3d party candidates, it’s that our focus shouldn’t be on elections at all in this rigged and totally unrepresentative system.

    2. See what I mean you too are censoring saying “your comment awaiting moderating” no free speech here either.
      The world is rushing to babysit ukeranians , begging them to come to their great western nation. They chased away the non-whites and let them drown in the wide oceans, or slaughtered .
      Where did the western world get its wealth from . FROM THE NON WHITES NATURAL RESOURCES AND HUMAN RESOURCES.
      THEIR COUNTRIES PLUNDERED BY THOSE WHO ARE NON COLOURED. NON COLOURED ALSO SET UP DICTATORS TO SLAUGHTER COLOURED PEOPLE TO ENSURE WEALTH AND POWER TO NON COLOURED.

      LETS SEE HOW YOU SENSOR THIS TO OBLIVION.

  3. Dear Chris,
    You have clearly outlined the problem that we’re facing. I wish that you might have made a suggestion about what we could do about it at the end of the article.

    Have you read anything written by the late and great Dr Gene Sharp? He has clear directions for the response to this madness. I completely agree with him, because I believe that we can’t vote our way out of this.

    Please find a copy of How to Start a Revolution DVD documentary to watch and read From Dictatorship to Democracy, the book. He also wrote the three-volume series The Politics of Nonviolent Action, in which I think you’d be interested.

    1. To Susan,
      “Can’t vote our way out” – how do you know, we’ve never really tried – we have been voting duopoly for ages, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results – rather like trying to eat soup with a fork, a red one, then a blue one over and over until we decide that silverware simply doesn’t work – instead of trying, oh, say, a spoon. There are other, better, choices on the ballot (I know, i voted for ’em since ’96) but we don’t vote for ’em

      Sharp has some good ideas, I’m sure – I suspect Hedges is well familiar with them, and he is all for non-violence, but I can’t help wondering why voting at the electoral polls for what we actually want seems to be routinely absent from his posts – THAT is my biggest beef with him and has been with others – how can we get folks to revolt in the streets when we can’t even get them to revolt at the polls?

      1. People are too busy lying in saloons contaminating their bodies and the environment for their fake looks to care. Look at how modern people r slaughtering themselves by becoming barrels of chemical, looking more hideous by the day . Do these people care about truths when they walk around glaringly falsified? Men women kids all the same. They are so fàlsified and robotic . It’s sick. They have to keep killing off coloured people to afford their ridiculous looks.

    2. What we can do is unite as a nation, or at least 150-200 million of us, acknowledging finally that the military budget is a fraud, the wars are all based on lies and have nothing to do with human rights or freedom or democracy, that there is a cabal of lunatics in control of foreign policy who as madmen want to rule the world, that “we the people” if we understood the real agenda, would never want any of this, that “we the people” have been the ATM machine for endless war and global military expansion, and it’s time to put a stop to this insanity. WAR IS MAKING US POOR! The US imperial project is a con, a rip-off. We’re sick of paying for this and in point of fact, DEMAND OUR MONEY BACK for 30 years of pure deception and thievery … https://peacedividend.us/what-is-the-peace-dividend-strategy/

      1. Just the military is a fraud? Not BlackRock and BlackStone? Not the fed? Not the bailout recepients? Not the privatization of everything? Not the red-liners? Not the gerrymanderers? Not the fence liners? This is a country that runs on PayDay loan mentality — fines, fees, tolls, add-ons, penalties, late or early payoff penalties, forced arbitration, code violations, forever felonies, doube/triple/quadruple taxation, regressive taxation on steroids.

        What is wrong with the MIC is what’s wrong with the Chemical-Ag-Med-Ed-Finance-Real Estate-Law-Prison-Mining-Energy-Big Data-AI-Congressional COMPLEX.

        I do believe the entire system is a fail!

      2. Obviously, the entire system is shot through with fraud. But it’s difficult for people to get into all of the various manifestations of it. On the other hand, the DOD fraud is so obvious, so easy to establish, it represents a unique vulnerability. No one likes being lied to. No one likes being conned. It’s easy to establish that this is and has been exactly what’s going on with the wars and the explosive military expansion. We use THIS as the lever to remove the corrupt from power, then we clean up the entire system. The problem with attacking it all at once is that it’s impossible to get broad understanding of all of the arcane features and nuances. If we focus on one that everyone can grasp and will be outraged about, we have some chance of removing these criminals from office. If we scatter our energies all over the map, then nothing will change. I recommend you look at this … https://jdrachel.com/2017/05/29/whack-a-mole-activism/

      3. Great one —

        Ukraine: War and the Challenge of Human Rights in the United States and Beyond
        ​​​​​​​ Ajamu Baraka, BAR editor and columnist 23 Mar 2022

        The war being waged against global humanity by the U.S./EU/NATO Axis of Domination is a hybrid war that utilizes all the tools it has at its disposal – sanctions, mass incarceration, coups, drugs, disinformation, culture, subversion, murder, and direct military engagement to further white power. The Eurocentrism and “White Lives Matters More Movement” represented by the coverage of the war in Ukraine stripped away any pretense to the supposed liberal commitment to global humanity. The white-washing of the danger of the ultra-right and neo-Nazi elements in the Ukrainian military and state and the white ethno-nationalism that the conflict generated across the Western world demonstrated, once again, how “racialism” and the commitment to the fiction of white supremacy continues to trump class and class struggle and the ability to build a multi-national, class based anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist opposition in the North.

        It is primarily workers from Russia, the Donbas and Ukraine who are dying. But as in the run-up to the first imperialist war in Europe, known as World War One, workers with the encouragement of their national bourgeoisies, are lining up behind their rulers to support the capitalist redivision taking place, a redivision that can only be completed by war as long as capitalism and capitalist competition continues. Yet, instead of “progressives and radicals” joining forces to resist the mobilization to war, they are finding creative ways to align themselves with the interests of their ruling classes in support of the colonial/capitalist project.

        In the meantime, the people of Afghanistan are starving, with thousands of babies now dying of malnutrition because the U.S. stole their nation’s assets.. Estimates suggest that unless reversed, more people there will die from U.S./EU imposed sanctions than died during the twenty year long war. And the impact of the war in Ukraine with the loss of wheat exports from Ukraine and Russia resulting not only in rising food prices globally but in some places like East Africa , resulting in death from famine.

      4. The Peace Dividend strategy is a MECHANISM for challenging the corporate warmongers and getting their puppets out of government. People here complain that Hedges has no solutions. Well, this is a practical solution, a detailed strategy for enlisting and uniting the US public for regime change in Washington DC. It does not attempt to address or solve ALL of the problems and issues. It’s a targeted approach for mobilizing 150-200 million Americans who are fed up with a “rigged system” that takes their money, borrows more money, and squanders it to kill innocent people and make enemies. TARGETED! SPECIFIC! Spend some time on the site and you’ll see … https://peacedividend.us

      5. To John R,
        Regime change in DC – to me that means booting out both Ds and Rs and replacing them with non-corp folks who will champion what we the people want and need as they have expressed over and over in opinion polls – one of those “needs” being a 3rd party – which is only kind of non-corp party possible

      6. To John,
        The only way to do that is to put non-corp party candidates in office – something we the people have failed to do for decades …

      7. For at least forty years, as far as I know, when Reagan and Greenspan kicked off the Trickle Down con, that mostly avalanched up, and drastically cut the taxes that the rich and corporations had been paying, throwing that load upon the poor and middle-class.

  4. We estimate that Hedges, though general well -intentioned, is again falling into the pervasive American notion of a false equivalence.

    There is NO evidence that Russia has deliberately targeted civilian infrastructures, only in Western propaganda media.

    Precisely the opposite is the case. Unlike the vicious American and NATO criminals Russia’s intervention has been delayed by its determination to avoid civilian casualties and damage to infrastructures. As a result of its “cauldron” military strategy propaganda media in the West have interpreted such as Ukranian effective resistance.

    Hedges should know better. Indeed, he would know better if he could stop imagining that peace is only possible through divine osmosis.

    Hedges improperly weights the wars of encirclement of Russia by a criminal United States, the centuries old wars of betrayals of Russia, the wars of economic sanctions against Russia, the wars of coloured revolutions around Russia, the wars of sanctions against Russia, the 1945 war of nuclear threats against Russia in a feeble attempt to equalize the wickedness of the beligerents.

    American always seems to find fascist and Deash elements with which to ally. We would have thought and the history of militarism should have directed us to a place where an irrational pacifism is intolerable.

    We wonder, had Russia not sought to defend itself from the dangers listed plus biological weapons development by the USA on its borders what would be the disposition of Hedges when Russia came under direct military invasion by his country.

    But we know the answer! The same amount of useless peace talk absent a viable means, except an eponymous doctrinal nothingness as refuse.

    Maybe it’s past time when the equilization which Hedges is so keen on mounting be brought home to cities near him. Justice!

    The bible itself is a highly militaristic story book. How can Hedges resolve these internal contradictions?

    1. To Pacha,
      I suspect his reaction would be the same as it is to all the other invasions “his” country has mounted …
      Out of curiosity – you refer to “irrational pacifism” – is there “rational pacifism”? what would it look like?

      1. Pacifism is fundamentally based on the irrationality of violence, all kinds of violence. As poetic license, a writer can dare to see pacifism as irrational as well. Surely this should be obvious.

    2. Chris Hedges has been “near” to war, in fact, reported from war zones many times. He has seen the dead, the blown apart, the runation first hand. He was once kidnapped in central America and nearly killed. I think he knows more about it than you do.

    3. exactly—hedges always reduces himself to racist false equivalence, pretending the amerikan character has any similarities to Europeans, Latins or Asians

      1. Which white people will accept a life of sufficiency? Oh no they have to have large scale excessiveness so they can fill up landfill sites with stuff they plunder from poor nations looted by the western world.
        Tell them to give up bottled water or hair dye or ridiculous life style and they will plot to overthrow the government who dares to tell them they live too fat.
        Greed is eating up the western world. They are dieing from their own greed.

    4. WTF. I guess all those bombings and dead bodies are created by animators from Disney?

      1. Oh, those bioweapon labs run by DARPA, DoD, Big Pharma, CIA (?) et al, no big deal.

        United National Antiwar Coalition Statement on Ukraine

        3/19/22

        The United National Antiwar Coalition (UNAC) remains steadfast in its opposition to the United States/NATO imperialist project. The people of Ukraine are now suffering in a war zone because of the actions of the United States, beginning with the 2014 coup which violently ousted an elected president. The goal then as now was to use Ukraine as a weapon to target Russia militarily. We point out that the current conflict is not the first for Ukraine. More than 14,000 people living in the eastern Donbas region have died in an eight-year long war because they refused to accept the coup government imposed by the U.S.

        There have been many opportunities to peacefully resolve this conflict. The US could have announced that Ukraine would not be admitted into NATO, but it would not. The Minsk II Agreement signed in 2015 by Ukraine, Russia, Germany and France was unanimously approved by the United Nations Security Council. Minsk II called for the end of hostilities between Ukraine and the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics in Donbas. Ukraine was required to engage in negotiations and provide constitutional recognition for this region. But far right forces prevented implementation and three American presidents saw an advantage in not implementing the agreement.

        The result was a continuation of bloodshed and the strengthening of right wing and neo-Nazi forces. Ukraine is now a haven for white supremacist groups and has invited mercenaries from across Europe, the United States, and other nations. This use of the right wing is by design and is yet another means of maintaining a dangerous status quo. It is both naive and dangerous to deny the existence of these far-right forces and to ignore the hold they have on Ukrainian politics. They will not only unleash violence in Ukraine, but they will inevitably bring racist violence back to their home countries.

        The Biden administration sends weapons and prolongs the conflict. The U.S. further enriches the military industrial complex with its actions with money that should be used for the good of the people. The promised Build Back Better bill is in limbo and the monies promised for renewing the Child Tax Credit and providing covid relief instead are used to stoke the conflict in Ukraine.

        UNAC calls on the antiwar community to join in opposing NATO plans to expand further eastward. Not only should NATO cease integrating new members, but it should be dismantled altogether. It is not the defensive force that it claims to be and has wrought destruction from Ukraine to Libya to Afghanistan. NATO is the expression of U.S. global dominance and can only do great harm around the world.

        Congress and the Biden administration approved $15 billion to fund militarism in Ukraine in the same week that providers of free covid testing, vaccination, and treatment for the uninsured were informed their services would no longer be reimbursed. The military industrial complex gets billions of dollars while the people’s needs go unmet. The uninsured and unhoused go without help while the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion gets money with the blessings of Congress.

        The calls for a so-called “no-fly zone” would in fact create an air war that would heighten the risk of nuclear conflict. Sanctions are war by other means and should be universally condemned by all in the antiwar movement.

        The displacement of millions of people in Ukraine is a repeat of what the US and NATO have wrought elsewhere. UNAC appeals to antiwar forces in this country to join in making consistent demands for peace in Ukraine, an end to the NATO imperialist structure, and a system which meets public needs and not those of defense contractors.

        We demand:

        US/NATO hands off Ukraine: No weapons, No military “advisors,” No mercenaries.

        Humanitarian aid to Ukraine and resettlement of all refugees and displaced persons

        Keep Ukraine out of NATO and Stop NATO expansion.

        Expulsion of all foreign white supremacist and neo-Nazi forces from Ukraine

        Reparations to civilians in Ukraine and the Donbas independent regions

        Dismantle NATO and establish a military neutral zone from Western Russia through Ukraine and the Baltic states

        U.S. government renounce doctrine of Full Spectrum Dominance

      2. How about expelling the white supremacists from the U.S.? Oh, that’s right, that’s about half the politicians in the nation.

      3. No. They are dying in poor countries for American greed. Is there an American or westerners who is not toxified inside their bodies, outside their bodies , on their minds and thoughts, who does not look like freaky painted plastic. It takes wars to keep the phools living like that. Their grandiosity on the lives of coloured people. TO BE FAIR THOUGH COLOURED PEOPLE HAVE BECOME AS FOOLISH IN THEIR LOOKS AS IF THEY LOVE THE LOOKS OF THEIR COLONIALISTS WHO ENSLAVED THEM. THEY ALL WANT TO LOOK WHITE.

  5. This would be a lot easier to share and more persuasive if you were more careful with your facts. You try to say everything at once and although you make many points that I agree with, in others you are merely sharing your opinion. In still other cases you do not seem to have assessed your claims carefully.
    It is by no means clear that “racism” is the issue that you claim. Tens of thousands of mostly “white” Americans died fighting in Korea and Vietnam to deter communist expansion. Not one American soldier has died in Ukraine, and the current administration has flatly stated a lack of interest in pursuing this. Moreover, Serbians were relentlessly bombed to “protect” Bosnians. This doesn’t fit neatly into your paradigm.
    Lemay did make that claim about 20% of the population, but it doesn’t seem to have any firm basis.

    1. I think the racism is that Americans are crying crocodile tears over dead Ukrainians but don’t give two shits about dead Arabs.

      1. Exactly true. The racists Americans and westerners in general get so hurt and weepy when shown their racist ways. Coloured people are stronger than whites because they are totally looted by whites and coloured people have to walk on broken glass and carry water in hats to survive meaning they have to do the impossible. They have to be rock strong and self sufficient unlike whites who will one day invent automatic backside wipes for whites who thrives on “YOU DONT HAVE TO”. MEANING THEY DO AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE AND SO THEY ARE WEAK FRAGILE THEY TAKE TAKE TAKE .
        To be fair coloured people in the western world get as lazy and dumb because of mindless consumption, mindless conveniences

    2. @Nathaniel
      The racism is that the West is freaking out over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, but didn’t utter a peep about all of the U.S. invasions and atrocities over the past 20 or so years. Public comments have been made by both politicians and reporters that because Ukrainians have blonde hair and blue eyes, because they’re middle class, because they’re “civilized” unlike people in Afghanistan and Iraq, that we should care more about them.

      As to the wars, you’re correct: it’s about capitalism fighting communism, maintaining & expanding U.S. empire, and resources like oil. But those wars were initiated and run by the U.S. government. But this reaction of the West has been totally different and seems to include virturally everyone.

  6. This rather reminds me of how a number of years ago, when there was so much condemnation directed at Palestinian suicide bombers in Israel, I said that I knew how to stop the suicide bombings – just supply the Palestinians with the same tanks and planes and rockets we were supplying Israel with ….. suicide bombers use their bodies as weapons deliverers because that is all they had … give ’em tanks, and voila! no more suicide bombers …

  7. This reminds me of a number of years ago when there was so much condemnation of Palestinian suicide bombers in Israel – I said i knew how to stop them – just give the Palestinians the same weapons and armaments we were giving the Israelis – you don’t need to use your body as a weapons deliverer if you have a tank or a plane …. Silence

    If you want people to stop killing other people don’t give them a reason to …

  8. I have come to detest the country of my birth, namely the USA. I watch in horror at the hypocrisy of the USA calling out Russian war crimes, which has now morphed into outright mass hysteria. Where was such outrage for all the wars and regime changes at the hand of the USA since WWII? Nothing but a deafening silence which amounts to willful acceptance by the world when the USA imposes death and destruction upon the world. Where was the sanctions against the USA for all it has wrought. None. Instead the USA continues giddily along the way of being the largest purveyor of weapons manufacturing and sales as well as being the world’s number one terrorist nation by a long shot. No other nation can begin to compare to the USA regarding such matters of destruction. I came across the following link that sums it up perfectly: https://countercurrents.org/lucas240407.htm

    My partner and I can count on one hand the number of people we know who have not bought into the mass hysteria surrounding Russia and Ukraine. Pretty much everyone else we know have reacted liked Pavlovian dogs barking on cue their two minutes of hate against who they believe are the greatest evil in the entire universe all the while turning a blind eye to what their country does on a daily basis somewhere around the world, either directly or using one of our proxy countries to do our deadly and destructive bidding. And meanwhile at home, both of the two corporate political parties work hand in hand to further solidify the USA into an outright totalitarian corporate fascist police state. And the willfully ignorant citizens keep on arguing and fighting and over and voting for the two party system that only ensures their own demise to say nothing about those living around the world. And as the citizens of the USA and the world yell and scream like the trained seals they are regarding Russia and all the while ignoring all the USA has done, something called exponential climate catastrophe is poised to lead to the extinction of most life on earth. But somehow Russia is far worse than such a thing, to say nothing of the USA which makes Russia look like a rank amateur when it comes to dealing death and destruction around the world.

    1. I share your disgust with the way the U.S. war crimes are whitewashed and also share your shock at having so many friends joining in the mindless hysteria. Several friends of mine are actively supporting the Ukrainian fascists like, as you say, Pavlov’s dogs.

      1. So the Ukrainian population fighting back or just trying to survive are “fascists”? Have you ever lived in the region? Been a journalist there? This is the kind of simplifying, jingoistic, flattening of the rough ridges of truth which is as pathetic on the left as on the right.

      2. @Moderator
        While the Nazis and/or Neo-Nazis (no substantial difference) are a small minority in Ukraine, they have outsized influence and control because they’re the most violent and dangerous group there. They threaten the lives of politicians and carry out those threats, so the politicians are scared of them and do pretty much whatever they say. For example, the Ukrainian negotiator who was assassinated when he returned to Ukraine was killed by Nazis because he offered Russia something the Nazis didn’t want him to offer. Not to mention that they have their own entire battalion, have a significant presence in the rest of the military, and have members in high political positions such as the head of the national police.

        Carolyn+L+Zaremba may have nutshelled this or made it too shorthand, assuming that others know these facts. Of course all Ukrainian fighters are fighting to defend their homes, but that doesn’t negate the fact that Nazis basically run that country.

    2. @Schrodinger’sCat
      Watch it bub, plagiarism is a crime! I’ve said just about everything you said in your comments, here or on friends’ Facebook pages, or both.

      I can count on one FINGER the number of friends who are not totally brainwashed and hysterical regarding these events, though admittedly I still have some friends with whom I haven’t discussed this yet. And that person is a very casual friend with whom I’ve interacted far more online than in person. Unfortunately, we are a very small minority, at least in the U.S., but I suspect also in western Europe and certainly in all of the far right countries in eastern Europe. I guess thinking objectively and logically doesn’t make you any friends or allies nowadays.

    3. I concur with Schrodinger about the number of people falling in line with the propaganda of demonizing a villain that is the proven method our USA gets public support for an invasion or war. I have to say I am suspicious about any mainstream messaging because of the history of deception to the American people by corporate media using official sources.

      1. Come on, both sides of the manure political pond are EXACTLY the same:

        US President Joe Biden has proposed the largest-ever military budget, asking Congress for $813.3 billion in the coming year – $31 billion more than the budget approved for 2022. Lawmakers are likely to add even more funding, as representatives from both parties have complained it doesn’t go far enough because of inflation.

        “I’m calling for one of the largest investments in our national security in history, with the funds needed to ensure that our military remains the best-prepared, best-trained, best-equipped military in the world,” Biden said in a statement on Monday.

        While the proposed budget is the highest-ever dollar amount in US history, inflation means that in real terms it would be a 1.5% increase rather than the nominal 4%. Democrats and Republicans alike on Capitol Hill have pushed for a 5-7% increase instead, according to Politico. Congress had approved $782 billion for the current fiscal year.

        +–+

        Of course, every dollar THEY say is part of that war budget, multiple by 6 or more the damage, the PTSD, the wasted lives on the R & D and university pursuits for this murderr inc. How many will go without, and how many will not have medicines and care, because the money goes to the lords of murder, Defence/Offence companies?

        The budget is in the trillions each year, but we take it up the read everytime.

      2. Listen, sure there has been a lot of disinformation and misinformation. You just need a better BS detector to identify disinformation and this narrative about the good boy Putin is some serious disinformation and there are lots of people in this thread either falling for it, and doing it intentionally.

        Just think about this. Why are all these small European nations that were once part of the Soviet Union now on the side of NATO. Is it some sort of conspiracy? Seems another country, namely Ukraine, wants to join them. Is that because they are Nazis, or maybe the guys killing children are the real Nazis?

      3. @Tom Calarco
        There are multiple reasons and contextual considerations:

        1. These decisions are made by the leaders of these countries, not the people living in them. The leaders make decisions like that based on what THEY want, not necessarily what the people want or what’s better for them. The major geopolitical considerations of the leaders include things like resources, money, and power, which benefit them but usually not the people.

        2. Most people are attracted to all the bright shiny things they think they’ll get if they join NATO and thereby western Europe. Problem is, chasing after more material wealth is wrong in many ways and for many reasons. Problem is, joining NATO cost these countries a lot of money because of all the military equipment and weapons they had to purchase, from guess who. Problem is, all NATO membership has done for them is to get them embroiled in this mess.

        3. NATO should have been disbanded after the Soviet Union collapsed, and its continued existence is totally illegitimate. Shortly after that collapse, Russia attempted to join NATO and was rebuffed. Russia has also attempted to join the European Union, and was again rebuffed. So who’s the bad guy, who’s the problem here?

        Finally, your snide comments about Nazis are not only disgusting, they are very offensive. One quarter of my family was killed by actual Nazis in WWII, and the Nazis in Ukraine are actual Nazis. Russia has its own issues with how it has treated Jews — that’s the main reason why my maternal grandmother’s side of the family left Kiev in 1910 — but it doesn’t rise to anywhere near the level of what Nazis have done to us. The facts are that actual Nazis have an entire battalion in the Ukraine military, have a major presence in the rest of the military, have politicians in high offices including the head of the National Police, and have intimidated many if not most politicians in Ukraine into doing what the Nazis want. This is not a minor issue, nor should it be brushed off as just something that certain people complain about.

      4. @Tom
        Really? That’s funny, because I don’t know anyone in Russia, have never communicated in any way with anyone in Russia, am not familiar with Russian propaganda — though I’m very familiar with U.S. propaganda, which has obviously brainwashed you — and I made these comments based on what I know. Wow, what an incredible coincidence!

      5. Well, Dumbo, I was being facetious or couldn’t you tell. If you’re ok with someone killing kids, then go for it.

      6. @Larry Hanson
        I agree with both of you, except that I haven’t liked this country since I was old enough to seriously consider such things (in 6th grade). I’ve learned even more to make me hate this country since, such as the genocide upon which it was founded (always knew about slavery).

        When I’ve presented the hypocrisy problem to people as presented by Schrodinger’sCat (“Kitty”), I get one of two responses: Either people ignore what I said, or they reply that we can condemn Putin and Russia while also condemning the U.S. and its presidents. The problem with the latter is the proportions. While some of these people claim that they can criticize Putin & Russia without being hypocritical because they’ve done things like demonstrate against U.S. wars, I point out that there were no sanctions nor massive condemnations of the U.S. for its far worse war- and human rights crimes over the past 20 or so years — and for which the U.S. had absolutely no legitimate grievances against the countries that it invaded — including the ongoing genocide in Yemen for which the U.S. is partially responsible and is still contributing to. I’ve never gotten a relevant response to this.

  9. It’s gone this far – From STAT, a medical news website
    Should pharma stop selling life-saving drugs to Russia?

    “In response to the invasion of Ukraine, should drugmakers stop sending important medications to Russia? Many industry players have already begun winding down clinical trials, ending investment, and withholding non-essential medicines. But when it comes to medicines for diabetes, cancer, or infections — should companies continue sending them to Russian civilians, when their government is killing civilians and threatening nuclear war?

    Such a bold move might help convince the Kremlin to change its behavior, STAT’s Ed Silverman writes — but it could exact a brutal toll on innocent Russians. Some experts believe that collateral damage is worth it.

    ‘People are caught up in this notion that the pharmaceutical companies have a duty to sell medicines come hell or high water. But I’m not persuaded we have much choice,’ one bioethics professor told STAT. ‘Putin is committing war crimes and now is threatening nuclear war. The rules about boycotts have to include pharma.’

    This is what’s passing for medical ethics?

    1. @SH
      Things went to far when people started civilization. But to your point, WTF is wrong with people? How are people so easily brainwashed? The Pavlov’s dogs comments above are spot on, but I’m surprised to the extent to which all this propaganda and brainwashing works. One would think that people could retain at least a minimal amount of intelligence in these matters, but I guess not. The whole western world has gone completely criminally insane. What’s next, advocating nuclear war?

      1. Exactly true. The racists Americans and westerners in general get so hurt and weepy when shown their racist ways. Coloured people are stronger than whites because they are totally looted by whites and coloured people have to walk on broken glass and carry water in hats to survive meaning they have to do the impossible. They have to be rock strong and self sufficient unlike whites who will one day invent automatic backside wipes for whites who thrives on “YOU DONT HAVE TO”. MEANING THEY DO AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE AND SO THEY ARE WEAK FRAGILE THEY TAKE TAKE TAKE .
        To be fair coloured people in the western world get as lazy and dumb because of mindless consumption, mindless conveniences

  10. Yeah, yeah, we already know all this, Chris. We’ve read this time and again. But the timing of this article makes you seem like a Russian agent. Don’t you realize that? Of course, the U.S. has been committing war crime for the last 70 years, but it doesn’t make Putin any less culpable. Please use some common sense instead of repeating the same old song that actually supports Putin.

    1. “Supports Putin”? And how the hell did you come by that?
      – what is the matter with us that we don’t understand the concept of hypocrisy –
      “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”

      1. Yes, hypocrisy, but I think dead bodies take precedence at this time, and it’s the Russians doing the killing.

      2. Mike Whitney • Monday, March 21, 2022 • 2,200 Words
        Question 1– Can you explain to me why you think Russia is winning the war in Ukraine?

        Larry C. Johnson– Within the first 24 hours of the Russian military operation in Ukraine, all Ukrainian Ground Radar Intercept capabilities were wiped out. Without those radars, the Ukrainian Air Force lost its ability to do air to air intercept. In the intervening three weeks, Russia has established a de facto No Fly Zone over Ukraine. While still vulnerable to shoulder fired Surface to Air Missiles supplied by the U.S. and NATO to the Ukrainians, there is no evidence that Russia has had to curtail Combat Air Operations.

        Russia’s arrival in Kiev within three days of the invasion also caught my attention. I recalled that the Nazi’s in Operation Barbarossa took seven weeks to reach Kiev and the required 7 more weeks to subdue the city. The Nazis had the advantage of not pulling punches to avoid civilian casualties and were eager to destroy critical infrastructure. Yet many so-called American military experts claimed that Russia was bogged down. When a 24 mile (or 40 mile, depends on the news source) was positioned north of Kiev for more than a week, it was clear that Ukraine’s ability to launch significant military operations had been eliminated. If their artillery was intact, then that column was easy pickings for massive destruction. That did not happen. Alternatively, if the Ukrainian’s had a viable fixed wing or rotary wing capability they should have destroyed that column from the air. That did not happen. Or, if they had a viable cruise missile capability they should have rained down hell on the supposedly stalled Russian column. That did not happen. The Ukrainians did not even mount a significant infantry ambush of the column with their newly supplied U.S. Javelins.

        The scale and scope of the Russian attack is remarkable. They captured territory in three weeks that is larger than the land mass of the United Kingdom. They then proceeded to carry out targeted attacks on key cities and military installations. We have not seen a single instance of a Ukrainian regiment or brigade size unit attacking and defeating a comparable Russian unit. Instead, the Russians have split the Ukrainian Army into fragments and cut their lines of communication. The Russians are consolidating their control of Mariupol and have secured all approaches on the Black Sea. Ukraine is now cut off in the South and the North.

        I would note that the U.S. had a tougher time capturing this much territory in Iraq in 2003 while fighting against a far inferior, less capable military force. If anything, this Russian operation should scare the hell out of U.S. military and political leaders.

        The really big news came this week with the Russian missile strikes on what are de facto NATO bases in Yavoriv and Zhytomyr. NATO conducted cyber security training at Zhytomyr in September 2018 and described Ukraine as a “NATO partner.” Zhytomyr was destroyed with hypersonic missiles on Saturday. Yavoriv suffered a similar fate last Sunday. It was the primary training and logistics center that NATO and EUCOM used to supply fighters and weapons to Ukraine. A large number of the military and civilian personnel at that base became casualties.

        Not only is Russia striking and destroying bases used by NATO regularly since 2015, but there was no air raid warning and there was no shutdown of the attacking missiles.

        Question 2– Why is the media trying to convince the Ukrainian people that they can prevail in their war against Russia? If what you say is correct, then all the civilians that are being sent to fight the Russian army, are dying in a war they can’t win. I don’t understand why the media would want to mislead people on something so serious. What are your thoughts on the matter?

        Larry C. Johnson– This is a combination of ignorance and laziness. Rather than do real reporting, the vast majority of the media (print and electronic) as well as Big Tech are supporting a massive propaganda campaign. I remember when George W. Bush was Hitler. I remember when Donald Trump was Hitler. And now we have a new Hitler, Vladimir Putin. This is a tired, failed playbook. Anyone who dares to raise legitimate questions about is immediately tarred as a Putin puppet or a Russia stooge. When you cannot argue facts the only recourse is name calling.

        Question 3– Last week, Colonel Douglas MacGregor was a guest on the Tucker Carlson Show. His views on the war are strikingly similar to your own. Here’s what he said in the interview:

        “The war is really over for the Ukrainians. They have been ground into bits, there is no question about that despite what we hear from our mainstream media. So, the real question for us at this stage is, Tucker, are we going to live with the Russian people and their government or we going to continue to pursue this sort of regime change dressed up as a Ukrainian war? Are we going to stop using Ukraine as a battering ram against Moscow, which is effectively what we’ve done.” (Tucker Carlson– MacGregor Interview)

        Do you agree with MacGregor that the real purpose of goading Russia into a war in Ukraine was “regime change”?

        Second, do you agree that Ukraine is being used as a staging ground for the US to carry out a proxy-war on Russia?

        Larry C. Johnson– Doug is great analyst but I disagree with him—I don’t think there is anyone in the Biden Administration that is smart enough to think and plan in those strategic terms. In my view the last 7 years have been the inertia of the NATO status quo. What I mean by that is that NATO and Washington, believed they could continue to creep east on Russia’s borders without provoking a reaction. NATO and EUCOM regularly carried out exercises—including providing “offensive” training—and supplied equipment. I believe reports in the United States that the CIA was providing paramilitary training to Ukrainian units operating in the Donbass are credible. But I have trouble believing that after our debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan, we suddenly have Sun Tzu level strategists pulling the strings in Washington.

        There is an air of desperation in Washington. Besides trying ban all things Russian, the Biden Administration is trying to bully China, India and Saudi Arabia. I do not see any of those countries falling into line. I believe the Biden crew made a fatal mistake by trying to demonize all things and all people Russian. If anything, this is uniting the Russian people behind Putin and they are ready to dig in for a long struggle.

        I am shocked at the miscalculation in thinking economic sanctions on Russia would bring them to their knees. The opposite is true. Russia is self-sufficient and is not dependent on imports. Its exports are critical to the economic well-being of the West. If they withhold wheat, potash, gas, oil, palladium, finished nickel and other key minerals from the West, the European and U.S. economies will be savaged. And this attempt to coerce Russia with sanctions has now made it very likely that the U.S. dollar’s role as the international reserve currency will show up in the dustbin of history.

        Question 4– Ever since he delivered his famous speech in Munich in 2007, Putin has been complaining about the “architecture of global security”. In Ukraine we can see how these nagging security issues can evolve into a full-blown war. As you know, in December Putin made a number of demands related to Russian security, but the Biden administration shrugged them off and never responded. Putin wanted written assurances that NATO expansion would not include Ukraine (membership) and that nuclear missile systems would not be deployed to Romania or Poland. Do you think Putin’s demands are unreasonable?

        Larry C. Johnson– I think Putin’s demands are quite reasonable. The problem is that 99% of Americans have no idea of the kind of military provocation that NATO and the U.S. have carried out over the last 7 years. The public was always told the military exercises were “defensive.” That simply is not true. Now we have news that DTRA was funding biolabs in Ukraine. I guess Putin could agree to allow U.S. nuclear missile systems in Poland and Romania if Biden agrees to allow comparable Russian systems to be deployed in Cuba, Venezuela and Mexico. When we look at it in those terms we can begin to understand that Putin’s demands are not crazy nor unreasonable.

        Question 5– Russian media reports that Russian “high precision, air-launched” missiles struck a facility in west Ukraine “killing more than 100 local troops and foreign mercenaries.” Apparently, the Special Operations training center was located near the town of Ovruch which is just 15 miles from the Polish border. What can you tell us about this incident? Was Russia trying to send a message to NATO?

        Larry C. Johnson– Short answer—YES! Russian military strikes in Western Ukraine during the past week have shocked and alarmed NATO officials. The first blow came on Sunday, March 13 at Yavoriv, Ukraine. Russia hit the base with several missiles, some reportedly hypersonic. Over 200 personnel were killed, which included American and British military and intelligence personnel, and hundreds more wounded. Many suffered catastrophic wounds, such as amputations, and are in hospital. Yet, NATO and the western media have shown little interest in reporting on this disaster.

        Yavoriv was an important forward base for NATO (see here). Until February (prior to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine), the U.S. 7th Army Training Command was operating from Yavoriv as late as mid-February. Russia has not stopped there. ASB Military news reports Russia hit another site, Delyatyn, which is 60 miles southeast of Yavoriv (on Thursday I believe). Yesterday, Russia hit Zytomyr, another site where NATO previously had a presence. Putin has sent a very clear message—NATO forces in Ukraine will be viewed and treated as combatants. Period.

        Question 6– Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has been lionized in the western media as a “wartime leader” and a modern-day “Winston Churchill”. What the media fails to tell its readers is that Zelensky has taken a number of steps to strengthen his grip on power while damaging fragile democratic institutions in Ukraine. For example, Zelensky has “banned eleven opposition-owned news organizations” and tried to bar the head of Ukraine’s largest opposition party, Viktor Medvedchuk, from running for office on a bogus “terrorist financing” charge. This is not the behavior of a leader that is seriously committed to democracy.

        What’s your take on Zelensky? Is he really the “patriotic leader” the media makes him out to be?

        Larry C. Johnson– Zelensky is a comedian and an actor. Not a very good one at that in my view. The West is cynically using the fact he is Jewish as a diversion from the size-able contingent of Neo-Nazis (and I mean genuine Nazis who still celebrate the Ukrainian Waffen SS unit’s accomplishments while fighting with the Nazis in WW II). The facts are clear—he is banning opposition political parties and shutting down opposition media. I guess that is the new definition of “democracy.”

        Question 7– How does this end? There’s an excellent post at the Moon of Alabama site titled “What Will Be The Geographic End State Of The War In Ukraine“. The author of the post, Bernard, seems to think that Ukraine will eventually be partitioned along the Dnieper River “and south along the coast that holds a majority ethnic Russian population.” He also says this:

        “This would eliminate Ukrainian access to the Black Sea and create a land bridge towards the Moldavian breakaway Transnistria which is under Russian protection. The rest of the Ukraine would be a land confined, mostly agricultural state, disarmed and too poor to be build up to a new threat to Russia anytime soon. Politically it would be dominated by fascists from Galicia which would then become a major problem for the European Union.”

        What do you think? Will Putin impose his own territorial settlement on Ukraine in order to reinforce Russian security and bring the hostilities to an end or is a different scenario more likely?

        Larry C. Johnson– I agree with Moon. Putin’s primary objective is to secure Russia from foreign threats and effect a divorce with the West. Russia has the physical resources to be an independent sovereign and is in the process of making that vision come true.

        Bio– Larry C Johnson is a veteran of the CIA and the State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism. He is the founder and managing partner of BERG Associates, which was established in 1998. Larry provided training to the US Military’s Special Operations community for 24 years. He has been vilified by the right and the left, which means he must be doing something right. His analysis and commentary can be found at his blog, https://sonar21.com/

      3. To Paul+,
        I might take exception to the “no-one in the Biden administration is smart enough” – Biden is being led by the nose by folks like Victoria Nuland – a holdover from Obama’s (Clinton’s) admin. – Nuland of ’14 Ukrainian coup fame, married to a Kagan – a war monger if there ever was one. I would not be a bit surprised if, having seen how the Afghan war in 80s – ’90s, where we funded the “freedom fighters”, so weakened the USSR that it was probably the final nail in its coffin, “we” thought let’s turn Ukraine into a “modern day” Afghanistan – arm the Ukrainians, prolong the war as long as possible, weakening Russia as much as possible – a “winning formula” that worked before, why not again. As they say, we were willing to fight the Russians to the last Afghani – and now to the last Ukrainian. We never did and don’t now, give a damn about any of them …

      4. To Tom,
        Dead bodies, indeed – there are dead bodies on all sides, including the ones in the Donbass region for the 8 years following the US supported coup in ’14 – which Western media did not cover.
        You still haven’t answered the question as to how Hedges’ post “supports” Putin …

      5. Because what our nation does, does not give Russia sanction, and indirectly by using what I would call is a red herring, to justify death and destruction is indirectly supporting Putin. Seems obvious to me, but why don’t people understand this?

      6. To Tom,
        Where did he give Russia “sanction” and what” red herring” are you referring to ?

      7. How can they know hyprocracy when their whole life is a lie and hyprocracy? Look at them , false from top of head to tip of toes and all parts in between.
        It is why they all dye their hair 200 colors because they are trained seals of the mega companies.
        They’ve become brain dead. And very ugly. The hair dye and cosmetic company did it to them. And all the other companies. That is why they are full of poison and pills and dying from it all.

    2. Clearly “we” don’t know this. If that was the case the entire world would have condemned the USA and sanctioned the hell out of it. Hedge’s a Russian agent?! Hedge’s in all of his articles has called out Putin for his illegal invasion of Ukraine. But somehow his calling out Putin and additionally giving context to the entire situation is supporting Putin?! That makes zero sense. The only thing I could say is that Hedge’s is preaching to the same choir for the most part, but I have no issue with his saying it over and over as perhaps more folks will hear his message over time. Nice try to gaslight us and Hedge’s as a Russian agent supporting Putin. Perhaps you are the one supporting Putin.

      1. Exactly, he’s preaching to the choir. Just because the U.S. is an evil empire doesn’t make Russia any less evil.

    3. So, you are just another warmonger accusing critical thought and facts as “support[ing] Putin”. You and all of the other bandwagon jumpers with no interest in doing anything but parrotting U.S. propaganda really need to be quiet. I am an American who loathes the U.S. government and war machine. I am against war. To mindlessly accuse Putin of war crimes when he was pushed deliberately by the U.S. and NATO reveals your ignorance and lack of nuanced thinking. People who “think” like you usually wind up getting more people killed than otherwise.

      1. Oh, so when someone pulls the trigger of a gun because a bystander tells him to do it, it’s the bystander’s fault. Is that your line of reasoning, Carolyn? My point is that sure, we have done more than our share of genocide and mass murder in all of the wars we have been in directly or indirectly since WW II. But that doesn’t give another country or dictator or murderer the right to do the same. That isn’t justification. About the only justification is self-defense. Surely, you don’t think that pregnant mother and child who were killed in that maternity hospital that was bombed were threatening Putin, do you?

    4. I think Chris’s underlying point is that those of us who think that our country’s hypocrisy is relevant to this whole mess are not averse to the achievement of peace through diplomacy — which means that Putin gets assurance that Ukraine will remain a buffer zone and not join NATO, and that it officially recognizes the independence of Eastern Ukraine’s culturally Russian, separatist regions. Everyone who is screaming about how monstrous Putin is — when our country’s behavior has been even more monstrous — doesn’t seem to care if this war goes on forever — and even escalates, which is a terrifying prospect. The Russian people are very unlikely to get rid of Putin. So why are all these millions of blue-and-orange flag-wavers not horrified, disgusted, and terrified by the prospect of U.S. involvement in yet another “forever” war – with nuclear-armed Russia? If they think that once Putin’s demands are met he’s going to go marauding all over Eastern Europe give me a break. Even Putin, with all his bombast, does not want to risk a nuclear war. So it’s very troubling that the majority of Americans don’t care if this war goes on forever because they want Putin and Russia to suffer as much as possible. Why are they not looking down the road and seeing the repercussions of this way of thinking?

      1. Who wants the war to go on forever? Putin, from what I’m reading, and this is in left-wing media, refuses to negotiate. Zelensky has already conceded that Ukraine will not join NATO. We can argue all we want about U.S. malfeasance but it won’t stop the Russians from continuing to destroy Ukraine and kill innocent people. Where does this person get off saying the bombings are being staged. Guess he or she is really a Russian agent. And this continuing false narrative about Nazis is nuts. There are more Nazis in the U.S. than Ukraine — you know, the militia groups, the Trumpers, the right-wing evangelists, the Texas gun lovers, the Georgia QAnons, etc. Chris has written 50 articles like this already. How about some thoughts about how to end the war instead of a broken record.

      2. Zelensky has been pleading to negotiate and has conceded Ukraine’s neutrality. Why are you ignoring that, Lisa. And why are people who have not been protesting the MIC which has been controlling our foreign policy since the end of WW II, suddenly up in arms about it to defend Russia? I protested against the war in Vietnam. I served in a hospital instead of going there. I have been anti-war for more than 50 years. Why are all these people suddenly coming out of the woodwork to protest our MIC. Where were they during the Iraq War, when we invaded Afghanistan, etc, etc. Why are you defending Russia?

      3. To Tom,
        Zelensky has been pleading to “negotiate”? Why the hell didn’t he push for implementation of the Minsk accords, which Ukraine signed – which basically would have met the requirements of Russia and kept Ukraine intact?

    5. @Tom Calarco
      Your comment makes you seem like a U.S. agent. We are not Russians, and our focus needs to be on U.S. war crimes and other U.S. misdeeds, not on Russia. Over the past 20 or so years alone, the U.S. has done far more and far worse than what Russia is doing in Ukraine, and unlike Russia, with absolutely no justification whatsoever. To be clear, I oppose Russia’s invasion because I’m anti-war, but as an American that’s all I have to say about it. Right now, the U.S. is arming Saudi Arabia and therefore responsible for the genocide that it’s committing in Yemen, the U.S. is occupying 1/3 of Syria and stealing its oil, and is bombing Somalia. Focus on that and don’t be just another hypocritical American Pavlovian dog.

      1. I think the point I’m making, Jeff, is that these are separate issues. Sure the MIC is alive and well. What are we spending $800 billion to support our military in the latest budget? Sure, it’s great that people like Chris alert us to the details, but the invasion of Ukraine is a separate issue and the claim that Putin was provoked is pure Russian BS. It’s a power grab and nothing more, and could be the beginning of an attempt to bring more countries under its sphere. What other reason explains his terrorizing the citizens there?

      2. @Tom
        It’s not a “claim” that Russia was provoked, it’s a fact. Many if not most U.S. foreign policy EXPERTS have been warning for at least 25 years that NATO expansion eastward would provoke Russia. You are minimizing the root cause of this problem, which is eastward NATO expansion. That is NOT a “separate issue,” it’s THE issue here, along with the U.S. sponsored coup in Ukraine in 2014. Hell, Senator Joe Biden warned about this in 1997, and so did even war monger Henry Kissinger, who made his career about expanding U.S. empire.

        All you’re doing is chanting USA, USA, going along with the establishment BS while minimizing the true causes of this problem. Again, Russia was wrong to invade, but the problems here go way deeper than that, started years before the invasion, and were not caused by Russia.

      3. Tom, I was lobbing tear gas cannisters back at the National Guard while Nixon was bombing Cambodia. I’ve been protesting the crimes of the MIC I’m sure as long as you have. I’m not defending Putin. Like Chris, I’m just spreading the blame around a little. It doesn’t take a genius to realize that the U.S. and NATO could have prevented this tragedy by not kicking a whipped dog when he was already down.

      4. Two wrongs don’t make a right though. We have to fight for justice. Not justify injustice. The lazy silent majority have to get off the couch, and be useful.

      5. @wolahg irkus
        I think it’s nothing but hypocrisy for Americans to complain about Russia & Putin unless they complain far more and far more loudly about what the U.S. does. We live, vote, and pay taxes in the U.S., and this is the only country for which we have responsibility.

  11. Thanks Chris for your lonely voice in opposition to the mass hysteria in the main stream press. What short memories they all have. We demonstrated against the Iraq war by the millions worldwide, but that didn’t stop them one bit. The war machine just rolls on. Hypocrisy runs amok but the overwhelming majority believes that the USA only has righteous motives. I see all war as evil and yet we continue to resort to it over and over again. Since we are entering an era of resource depletion, climate havoc, food scarcity, etc., let hope cooler minds prevail.
    September 16

    1. Food shortages because of the wasteful over eating westerners especially Americans and Canadians, doing so on the backs of Asia, Africa South america, central america

  12. When naming the list of American war criminals, one name in particular was missing……Hillary Clinton. Why? And in my opinion, simply by association, EVERY member of Congress who voted for military funding or for actual war itself.

    1. @Kathy+Hillock
      Hillary Clinton should be in prison for life for what she did to Libya. Obama was not going to allow NATO to attack Libya, but Clinton changed his mind when she was his Secretary of State. What was the country with the highest standard of living in that area of the world is now an open slave market, the country totally destroyed.

      And then there was her criminally insane call for a no-fly zone over Syria when she was running for president. Sure, go ahead and risk nuclear war with Russia, what could go wrong?

      1. In prison for life. Whew. These as mass murderers, and I guess after consuming so much crap Silence of the Lambs, you are a keyboard warrior will declare just Hillary for life? Americans are fools. You probably have zero idea how to kill a Nazi brigade, or single insurgent, because, wishing them to go away is the keyboard warrior way!

        With a Nazi in your tank who knows how you think:

        Joe Scalice at the World Socialist Website notes the hypocrisy of the USA-NATO and the compliant MSM Western media:

        The wars of aggression of Clinton, Bush, Obama and Trump contained the accumulated evil of the torture in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, the drone bombing of children at play, villages leveled by precision missiles and refugees drowned in the Mediterranean. Baghdad crumbled beneath the shock and awe of unstinting US bombing; Fallujah burned with white phosphorus.

        The American mass media is complicit in these crimes. They never challenged the government’s assertions, but trumpeted its pretexts. They whipped up a war-frenzy in the public. Pundits who now denounce Putin were ferocious in demanding that the United States bomb civilians.

        Thomas Friedman wrote in the New York Times in 1999 of the bombing of Serbia under Clinton, “It should be lights out in Belgrade: every power grid, water pipe, bridge, road and war-related factory has to be targeted… [W]e will set your country back by pulverizing you. You want 1950? We can do 1950. You want 1389? We can do 1389 too.” [Biden supported bombing Belgrade]

        Biden labels Putin a war criminal in the midst of a new media hysteria. Never referring to the actions of the United States, never pausing for breath, the media pumps out the fuel for an ever-expanding war. Hubris and hypocrisy stamp every statement from Washington with an audacity perhaps unique in world history. Its hands bathed in blood up to the elbows, US empire gestures at its enemies and cries war crimes.

      2. @ Jeff, When you tally the score on Hillary, donʻt forget the coup she bragged about in Honduras. 2009. She took out a moderately liberal government and handed the country to the cartels. By 2012, Honduras was the murder capital of the world. The Guardian did an article a couple of years later about the huge increase in femicide. It was not murders of women inside families. It was murder of women on the street who refused to become drug mules.

        Regarding, Libya, there was universal healthcare and universal free education. If students were accepted into a European university for doctoral studies, the state paid their way. When couples got married, they received a $50,000 gift from the state. When Obummer and Hillary got finished with it, there were open slave markets in Tripoli. Thatʻs their legacy. They brought slavery back to Africa.

  13. One quibble: I’d add Hillary Clinton to the lst. She was and remains an active and influential warmonger.

    Leading foreign policy experts warned that expanding NATO would inexorably lead to conflict with Russia. People like George Kennan, architect of the anti-communist “containment” strategy of the USSR and William Perry, former defense Secretary.

    The origin of this dangerous conflict is the eastward thrust of NATO, started by Bill Clinton, under the “advice” Of Hillary’s foreign policy éminence grise Richard Holbrooke. This is not rumor, its from Perry, who objected to the policy.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/09/russian-hostility-to-west-partly-caused-by-west

    She was also a key influencer encouraging Obama’s destruction of Libya, and chortled happily afterward. That was an effective end top non-proliferation: the Russian annexation of Crimea just out a cherry on top.

  14. Regarding the Russians targeting civilians in Ukraine, maybe, but I am withholding judgement for now. There is nothing in it for them and much to be gained by the Ukrainian side for creating that perception. We know that the NYT, the Guardian and the rest of the MSM are nothing more than cheerleaders for the empire and its proxy wars. They have been exposed again and again, and yet people swallow what they spew forth. From their well-documented past actions and statements, it would be in character for the Azov Nazis to create these false flag incidents, just as the White Helmets did in Douma. And who would be their puppet masters?

    For what seems to be an agenda-free analysis of what is really happening on the ground in Ukraine, listen to this clip of the Grayzone on YouTube of Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate interviewing Col. Douglas Macgregor, a military advisor to the Sec. of Defense under Trump. Maybe wishful thinking on my part, but Putin appears sane and prudent – unlike our own madmen.

    1. There is no such thing as an agenda-free analysis, here or anywhere. If you believe in objective journalism, you are just comfortable with providers who serve you what fits your own confirmation bias.

      1. Yeppers. Confirmation bias is a right bitch.

        Which is why I’ve watched the Colonel Macgregor (retired) grayzone interview AND the lt. General Kellogg (retired) Faux News interviews…

        I suspect the colonel who doesn’t work for a neocon think tank may be a bit “free er” to discuss any turnout of the situation. Plus, the men who served under Macgregor revered him, which usually = not full of shit.

        General Kellogg, OTOH somehow developed a net worth of about $10 million US while in charge of “rebuilding Iraq”. I expect Kellogg’s talents lie elsewhere than being a steictly straight shooter.

      2. Moderator – Jan makes clear that it’s difficult to know for sure what is real and what is illusion with respect to Ukraine. What you call ‘confirmation bias’ is an attempt to make sense of conflicting reporting.

        Certainly, the overwhelming numbers in the media, in politics, and in society at large have bought into the Russo-phobic narrative. Those disseminating this narrative do have an agenda. As Jan suggests, if not for the truth, what would the agenda be for reporting that is counter to the agenda driven mainstream?

        But we’ve been here before. Especially in the run up to the U.S. involvement in WWI. The manufactured enemy, Germany in this case, was the subject of a massive false propaganda campaign to entice American citizens to rally behind U.S. entry into the war. Then, as now, agenda driven.

        The problem today is the complete breakdown in trust by the people for their Institutions, whether Regulatory, Judicial, or in this case, the mainstream Press, that have repeatedly betrayed the people’s trust through corruption, lack of ethics, or outright criminality.

        The existence of any confirmation bias is perhaps an expression of citizens grasping to know the truth, but are being deliberately denied that right. This is a clear symptom of a society in collapse.

    2. “Here, I must confess to a serious ethical conflict in my heart and mind: I am desperate for Ukrainian fighters to not give in, to continue to fend off Russian troops heroically – as they have been doing so far. I salute and celebrate them. But I know who Putin is. Putin is a ruthless killer. He has proved that in the early 2000s when he flattened Grozny, Chechnya’s capital, killing more than 250 thousand people so as to solidify his hold over the Russian government. I shudder to think what he will do if the brave Ukrainians continue to resist his army of occupation: He is perfectly capable of turning Kiyv into Grozny, like he turned Grozny into Dresden.

      This is not to suggest that the Ukrainian fighters should surrender. ..”

      –Yanis Varoufakis, https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/2022/03/05/what-we-must-in-the-face-of-putins-criminal-invasion-of-ukraine-a-personal-view-plus-a-heartwarming-manifesto-by-russian-comrades/

    3. @Jan
      I don’t believe any of that for now. The now infamous Russian attack on a maternity hospital turned out to be a big lie,* and these claims just remind me of the lie that Iraqi soldiers took babies out of incubators and threw them on the floor in Kuwait.

      To be clear, Russia is certainly not a good guy — no one is here, and no large country including the U.S. is — and it would not at all surprise me to learn of Russian atrocities in Ukraine, because that always happens in war on all sides. But it serves no Russian purpose to kill children or bomb civilians, so I’ll need strong and credible evidence from neutral parties before I believe any of this.

      * Ukrainian doctors reported that the Ukrainian military kicked them out of the hospital along with all of the patients so they could use it for military operations. Doctors who objected were hit in the heads with rifle buts. By the time that Russia bombed, this was a military installation, not a hospital.

      1. What about that pregnant woman who was bloodied from the attack and later her and her baby died. There was a video of that and we saw it, so that does not conform to your claim that it had become a military installation. Please explain away.

  15. Oh, right, Putin a war criminal? Nah. But,

    Well, LeMay was a war criminal in uniform. The sorriest kind is a war criminal in pantyhose and Depends urine catchers. As well as the Blinken-Nuland-Kagan variety, with their soft porn breaths in the ears of their staff telling them, “let me do it, consent, and you will reap millions, and we’ll connect you deeply with whatever you want.”

    Sick, and then the effing smear of a human, the daughter no less of that War Criminal, Zib, interviewing a fellow war monger. Yikes. I do believe Russia also consumes this crap, and the weapons and Molotovs Chelsea Clinton and her investment portfolio husband dream of will vanish. This ain’t Afghanistan, and they — the Russian People — are readier than the effing you know what Republican-DemWoke-Trump’24 Freaks ever will be.

    Grayzone:

    https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/20/us-neo-nazi-ukraine-afghan-insurgency/

    The Afghan option has been advocated for Ukraine by some of the most prominent figures among the US foreign policy establishment, and particularly those on the Democratic side of the aisle.

    “It didn’t end well for the Russians…but the fact is, that a very motivated, and then funded, and armed insurgency basically drove the Russians out of Afghanistan. I think that is the model that people are now looking toward,” former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton declared during a February 28 interview with MSNBC.

    Clinton waxed nostalgic over the campaign to arm and train the Afghan mujahideen in a bid to suck the Soviet Union into a “Vietnamese quagmire.” If Western government can “keep the Ukrainian, both their military and their citizen volunteer soldiers supplied, that can continue to stymie Russia,” she added.

    Next, Clinton pointed to the dirty war in Syria, where the CIA’s Timber Sycamore program funneled weapons to the so-called “moderate rebels” of the Free Syrian Army, creating what mainstream US analyst Sam Heller called “weapons farms for larger Islamist and jihadist factions, including Syria’s al-Qaeda affiliate.”

    “It took years to finally defeat Syria in terms of the insurgencies, the democratic forces as well as others who battled the Russians, the Syrians, and the Iranians,” Clinton said.

    As a no-longer official voice of the Democratic foreign policy establishment, Hillary Clinton is able to speak with more candor than the current US Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, on the objectives of the liberal interventionist clique to which they both belong.

    When Hillary Clinton resurfaced on MSNBC on March 8 for an interview with MSNBC’s Mika Brezinski – daughter of Zbigniew, the architect of the program to arm the Afghan mujahedin – Clinton was more explicit than before about her desire for the Afghan option.

    “Lethal defensive weapons are making their way into Ukraine. They need more. I want to see them get more. I’ve urged publicly and privately that they get more,” the former Secretary of State said. “There is a concerted effort by governments, particularly NATO governments, both to provide weapons and aid.”

    “This is not going to end quickly,” Clinton concluded, “it’s going to drag on.”

    In a joint press conference with UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss, Blinken insisted that should Russian President Vladimir Putin try to “enforce such a puppet regime by keeping Russian forces in Ukraine, it will be a long, bloody, drawn-out mess through which Russia will continue to suffer grievously.”

  16. “Tens of millions of people, who had no connection with the attacks of 9/11, were killed, wounded, lost their homes, and saw their families destroyed because of our was crimes.”
    Chris, if you know who wasn’t connected “with the attacks of 9/11”, by extension you must know who was “connected”.
    I would like to know.
    Would you please, please, please, share the names of those so connected, so a whole bunch of us can confirm or question our assumptions.
    Please Chris.
    It’s been over 20 years now, and some of us our running out of time.
    Some of us already ran out of time before receiving the answers they desperately craved.
    Kind of like the Palestinian nightmare.
    When I was born they were living under brutal occupation.
    It makes me sad and furious that the occupation will continue throughout, and past, my entire lifetime.

  17. As much as Hedges likes to assume the moral high ground, it remains misleading to attribute hypocrisy to Machiavellian statecraft, as if its noble lies conceal anything more than a utilitarian ethic of power, as if personifications of ruling class ruthlessness care about any other consistency between words and actions than what they can keep getting away with in terms of whatever means, no matter how contradictory, serve that end.

    In this respect, it should be considered how conflict in Ukraine has come at just the convenient time to serve as both distraction from and more destruction for the world war already being waged by the global biosecurity state under cover of the covid coup the past two years. Distraction from rising resistance to its medical martial law and rising mortality rates from its poisonous injection campaign, for example. Destruction, for example, for further genocidal effects beyond lockdowns from breakdowns of economic supply chains if not potential cyberwar, for further assault on free speech and in effect any other human freedom under pretense of protecting us from mis-, dis-, mal-information, whether in the name of public health or war as the health of the state in this perpetual time of emergency, this permanent state of exception, of the new abnormal.

    But Hedges has had no words for this war, except in its support, along with other professional propagandists of the so-called left. Hypocrisy? Or just controlled, manufactured dissent? Who cares? Leave these fools or impostors behind. And care about the solutions Machiavellian monsters may further impose for the problems, real and imaginary, they’ve created, marching us toward such (dead) end as new rules-based international law and order to protect us from pandemics, climate change, war among nation-states, and whatever else they can come up with to enslave us to their absolute power.

      1. Oh, the US Patriot (sic) Act (sic) is a murder incorporated set of USA laws, allowing the prez and the USA the solemn right to drone kill anyone on earth. And, well, Mossad and CIA, some tricky Dicks, as well as MI6, et al.

        The west are ultimate killers, liars, rule breakers, poison purveyors, peace killers, loan sharks, assasines, flim-flam artists, PT Barnum snake oil salemen. Go USA, Go Edward Bernays, Go Operation Paperclip.

        United National Antiwar Coalition Statement on Ukraine

        3/19/22

        The United National Antiwar Coalition (UNAC) remains steadfast in its opposition to the United States/NATO imperialist project. The people of Ukraine are now suffering in a war zone because of the actions of the United States, beginning with the 2014 coup which violently ousted an elected president. The goal then as now was to use Ukraine as a weapon to target Russia militarily. We point out that the current conflict is not the first for Ukraine. More than 14,000 people living in the eastern Donbas region have died in an eight-year long war because they refused to accept the coup government imposed by the U.S.

        There have been many opportunities to peacefully resolve this conflict. The US could have announced that Ukraine would not be admitted into NATO, but it would not. The Minsk II Agreement signed in 2015 by Ukraine, Russia, Germany and France was unanimously approved by the United Nations Security Council. Minsk II called for the end of hostilities between Ukraine and the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics in Donbas. Ukraine was required to engage in negotiations and provide constitutional recognition for this region. But far right forces prevented implementation and three American presidents saw an advantage in not implementing the agreement.

        The result was a continuation of bloodshed and the strengthening of right wing and neo-Nazi forces. Ukraine is now a haven for white supremacist groups and has invited mercenaries from across Europe, the United States, and other nations. This use of the right wing is by design and is yet another means of maintaining a dangerous status quo. It is both naive and dangerous to deny the existence of these far-right forces and to ignore the hold they have on Ukrainian politics. They will not only unleash violence in Ukraine, but they will inevitably bring racist violence back to their home countries.

        The Biden administration sends weapons and prolongs the conflict. The U.S. further enriches the military industrial complex with its actions with money that should be used for the good of the people. The promised Build Back Better bill is in limbo and the monies promised for renewing the Child Tax Credit and providing covid relief instead are used to stoke the conflict in Ukraine.

        UNAC calls on the antiwar community to join in opposing NATO plans to expand further eastward. Not only should NATO cease integrating new members, but it should be dismantled altogether. It is not the defensive force that it claims to be and has wrought destruction from Ukraine to Libya to Afghanistan. NATO is the expression of U.S. global dominance and can only do great harm around the world.

        Congress and the Biden administration approved $15 billion to fund militarism in Ukraine in the same week that providers of free covid testing, vaccination, and treatment for the uninsured were informed their services would no longer be reimbursed. The military industrial complex gets billions of dollars while the people’s needs go unmet. The uninsured and unhoused go without help while the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion gets money with the blessings of Congress.

        The calls for a so-called “no-fly zone” would in fact create an air war that would heighten the risk of nuclear conflict. Sanctions are war by other means and should be universally condemned by all in the antiwar movement.

        The displacement of millions of people in Ukraine is a repeat of what the US and NATO have wrought elsewhere. UNAC appeals to antiwar forces in this country to join in making consistent demands for peace in Ukraine, an end to the NATO imperialist structure, and a system which meets public needs and not those of defense contractors.

        We demand:

        US/NATO hands off Ukraine: No weapons, No military “advisors,” No mercenaries.

        Humanitarian aid to Ukraine and resettlement of all refugees and displaced persons

        Keep Ukraine out of NATO and Stop NATO expansion.

        Expulsion of all foreign white supremacist and neo-Nazi forces from Ukraine

        Reparations to civilians in Ukraine and the Donbas independent regions

        Dismantle NATO and establish a military neutral zone from Western Russia through Ukraine and the Baltic states

        U.S. government renounce doctrine of Full Spectrum Dominance

      2. To Paul+
        can you provide a url for that? I would like to save it without having to copy and paste the whole thing from here …. Thanx!

      3. Good analysis here —
        https://youtu.be/6OAGgLCp7t4

        US military expert Scott Ritter, a former serviceman, who saw action in Iraq, who dealt with the Soviets, who is not on Russia’s side, talks about military operation in Ukraine: why Russia started the operation, when the operation will be over, fate of the petrodollar and global economic impact of the operation. Very interesting analysis with a realistic outcome from a US professional. This is what post-Western MSM never show to you, rather sticking to their usual “Don’t Look Up” thing. Great food for thought.

  18. Time we call out 9/11 for its principal, not (its patsy) Al Qaida; the arch-crime from which issued the sustained horror of the last two decades.

    1. @robert+scheetz
      Well, bin Laden said that he did it. I attended an hours long presentation in a large movie theater, with the presenters trying to convince us that the U.S. perpetrated 911. Neither I nor the friend with whom I attended were convinced, nor were the large majority of the audience as far as I can tell. My friend and I believed that the U.S. knew or should have known about the attack beforehand, but that was our position before the presentation, so it did nothing to change our minds.

      The 911 attack may be like the JFK assassination in that it was a great coverup and we’ll never know who did it. Our time, money, and effort are much better spent on things that are far more clear, like fighting the U.S. empire and it’s military/intelligence/industrial complex.

      1. Jeff –

        “Our time, money, and effort are much better spent on things that are far more clear, like fighting the U.S. empire and it’s military/intelligence/industrial complex.”

        I’m not sure what you’ve read regarding JFK’s murder, but I would suggest James Douglass’s book, “JFK and the Unspeakable.” In it, Douglass proves, through documented evidence, eyewitness accounts, and whistleblower interviews, that his murder was CIA backed, and Oswald the fall guy.

        Regarding 911, you make clear your disdain for the military/intelligence complex, Jeff, yet fall in lock step in accepting their patsy Bin Laden as the responsible party.

        In both cases, contrary to what you say, I would argue that the enemy has shown itself quite clearly.

      2. @Charles Badal
        I didn’t “fall in lock step” with anyone. I looked at the evidence from all sides and came to my own conclusion, which was that the at least some people in power knew about the attack ahead of time. There are definitely some things the government isn’t telling us and is almost certainly lying about, but that’s a far cry from them actually doing it. There is no convincing evidence for the latter that I’ve seen, though admittedly I’ve been done with this issue for years so I don’t know if there’s any new evidence.

        As to the JFK assassination, I don’t know why you brought that up, that wasn’t the issue here. We’ll never know for sure because of the coverup, including the murders of a lot of witnesses and people of interest, but it seems clear to me that he was assassinated by elements of the CIA and military/industrial complex who were angry that he didn’t launch a full attack on Cuba, that he wanted to get out of Vietnam, and that he wanted to get along with the Soviet Union. It also seems that anti-Castro Cubans and the Mafia were involved and likely used to kill him. But that said, what you going to to about this now? Dismantling the CIA would be a good result, but that’s not going to happen, and everyone involved is either really old or dead.

  19. “The Lie of American Innocence… Our hypocrisy on war crimes makes a rules-based world, one that abides by international law, impossible.”

    Why do certain individuals and entire nations live ‘above’ and without regard to ‘law’? BECAUSE THEY CAN. And no one is there to stop them.

    Those that wield the biggest stick or that have the most bucks to spend become ‘law’ unto themselves without the bother and interference of some meddlesome outside standard of fairness, ethics, or morality. The Big Stick rules all. Everything else be damned.

    And the only thing that ever displaces a Big Stick Nation? Another one with a BIGGER STICK. Thus always the need seen for ‘Full Spectrum Dominance’ by today’s ‘Indispensable Nation’.

    Power on a Planetary scale is intoxicating. The ability to use and abuse others is a toxic delight of addiction for psychopaths in positions of power at any level. That’s how they got into these positions in the first place.

    Karl Rove famously said, “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality… we’ll act again, creating other new realities… all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

    This is the central operating principle of Empire – any Empire, old or new. They set the rules. They make up the game. They change the rules in the middle of the game at their whim and desire… and everyone is left trying to figure out reasons why They operate without rules or accountability.

    We the People value such things as ‘law’ and ‘ethical behavior’. To Empire and Elitists… those are knee-slapping jokes for meant for suckers.

    1. @Roundball Shaman
      Acting with impunity (“BECAUSE THEY CAN”) is a natural animal instinct. That’s why grizzlies are so ornery; nothing in nature can challenge them, so they get angry when they don’t get everything they want. Humans are no different. That’s why the best thing regarding this issue is for humans to learn to control themselves. Until that happens, we all need substantial and adequate constraints on our behaviors. It’s also why the collapse of the Soviet Union is probably the worst political event of my life. The absolute power of the U.S. has corrupted absolutely, now here we are.

  20. in a fascist nation like USA where objective truth is denied social change is impossible—outside of anglophone philosophy, not one philosopher, including Marx believes this fascist nonsense

  21. Brilliant, as usual. The problem is the New York Times and the Washington Post won’t publish it, and CNN and MSNBC won’t interview him.

  22. Around 25 years ago, in one of their satires, MAD magazine noted that if 90% of all scientists who have ever lived are alive currently, then so are 90% of all mad scientists. Yep. And we know where they’re employed–churning out ever more deadly atomic, chemical, and biological weapons. Of course our side only does so because their side,”the enemy du jour” (term per my 93 year old daughter of a Wobbly mother) makes it necessary.

    Our side owns the exclusive right to Truth, inc. At least our betters, the econ 1% and their self defined meritorious Ivy elite allies, assert they indeed do. It’s not mad; oh my no. Rather the relentless, ruthless logic of people whose vision is hyper focussed on domination.

    Chris Hedges wants us to look, really look, at the bloody irrationalism of war. Where supposed surgical strikes have all the precision of unsterilized dull hacksaws. Making us the underwriters of butchers. Where gigatons of hypocrisy won’t disguise the egregious sin. The only response, at once both heart felt and rational, is repentance. No, the word doesn’t mean a one time individual passive grovelling for forgiveness before some remote authority. It’s the Latin translation of the Greek term metanoia, to re-think. An active process that may take decades. Which is also collective. And which requires restorative justice.

  23. Dear Chris Hedges

    I get it … you hate war. I hate war. You appear to believe that this war was avoidable. I agree with you … up until a few months ago, diplomacy had a chance.

    A thought experiment for you: you are Putin; it is February 20, 2022; what non-war path would you take? What are the outcomes?

    It’s time to enlighten us … be specific. How would you enable a non-war path?

    1. @AlanE
      This is a conundrum for those of us who are anti-war and not pro-U.S. supremacy. But as a world leader, it was up to Putin to find a non-military solution to this problem. If you don’t want that responsibility, don’t become a leader of a nation, especially not a large one with a large military and nuclear weapons like Russia. It’s not up to Chris Hedges to figure this out.

    2. @AlanE
      The non-war path is just that – no war. Russia would have continued to exist within its secure borders , with nobody taking a shot at it or infringing its sovereignty in any way!

      1. @alteyid48, Ask Gaddafi or Hussein how that secure borders thing worked out for them.

      2. @Jan
        This person or bot is a right wing troll who never has anything to say but, USA, USA! I wouldn’t bother responding, maybe they’ll go away.

    1. Give me a break, please, Niko. Why do people keep justifying a pig like Putin? I guess it’s like all the people who supported Trump. And they certainly are two pigs in a poke — I think that’s the saying. Please stop making excuses for evil — there is no excuse.

      1. @Tom
        Why do people keep justifying a pig like Biden? Or like any U.S. president? As an American, that’s the question you should be asking. Demonizing Putin as being any worse than these is just Ugly American BS.

      2. I think the point is not to justify Putin, let alone Trump, but to not justify NeoNazis and false flag ops and US-NATO imperialism. Oh yeah, and evil. But if you’re to determined to dismiss or embrace the latter in order to prove your patriotic devotion to MSM propaganda, I suppose there’s no evidence to the contrary that will deter you.

    1. To Niko,
      I have to say that is one thing I have never found an answer to – where were all the Western journalists over the 8 years of the civil war in Eastern Ukraine, the Donbass region, after the US coup in ’14 – when Ukrainian forces were shelling that area and killing the “insurgents” destroying their towns and cutting off essential services. Ukrainian forces that included the Azov battalion. I suspect that is one reason RT was scraped from the airwaves – they were covering that. And there is a French journalist, Ann-Laure Bonnell, who was there and made a documentary “Donbass” – which is hard to find and apparently only in French and Ukrainian – I would love to see her interviewed, if she can be found …

      1. Hmm,

        An article on the case in the Los Angeles Times, one of the few to appear, puts it this way: “the government may invoke the ‘state secrets’ privilege to block former US contractors from testifying about the now well-known waterboarding and torture of prisoners held at CIA sites in Poland. By a 6-3 vote, the justices said the US government can claim a privilege of secrecy even if there is no secret.” An American Civil Liberties Union lawyer who observed the process added that “US courts are the only place in the world where everyone must pretend not to know basic facts about the CIA’s torture program. It is long past time to stop letting the CIA hide its crimes behind absurd claims of secrecy and national security harm.” Or one might observe that it’s called in the vernacular “Getting Away with Murder.”

        Getting Away with Murder — What’s a little torture between friends?
        PHILIP GIRALDI

    1. That is how the americans manage to get a thousand times more stuff thàn they need. So they pay their tv reporters sixty million dollar salary, and their non-productive welfare people billions of dollars to do nothing other than shopping and renovating their wreckless bodies and everything they own. They burn break wreck and pollute while they steal kill Rob and loot the world they plunder and call the third world.
      But this goes for the entire western world especially Belgium, Denmark France Britain etc etc

  24. Let’s hope when the day comes that the US is no longer the hegemon, and takes its place humbly with others in a law-based multipolar world, it will learn to stop acting like a rabid rapacious pariah. Perhaps this war will bring us closer to that day, and we will one day thank Vladimir Putin for drawing a red line and taking a stand.

    1. Thank you, Vladimir for attacking a nation and killing its citizens. You’re such a precious dictator.

    2. However I will not want a neighbour like india Pakistan China or any Asian African south american Central American neighbour, all of whom are too crooked or weak or inept to be sharing a border with.

  25. One criticism I have of Chris is that while he’s very good at explaining the problems and pointing out the corruption, he fails to provide any possible solutions. I’ve read so many articles by him and now I can just about predict everything he will say before reading a new one. How about suggesting strategies, plans, ideas of how we can fix things? It’s sure not going to be easy and it’s going to take generations to do it. But how about a plan of attack?

    1. Chris can not walk on water, he pleas for donations while main stream war advocates are getting richer and richer.

      No important politician opposed any war and war mongers got elected.
      Any ideas, suggestions, plans for peace are regarded as treasonous.
      Example… G. G. Chang is a well known anti China critic, paid for nonsense to demonize China. No normal guy takes him seriously as he just part of the budget to fool the foolish.
      Experts, more skilled than Reverend Hedges can not accomplish strategies to fix the war problems.
      We will never end our war economy and war culture /media.

      1. To Keith,
        “We will never end our war economy and war culture /media.” Not with that attitude we won’t …

      2. Take some time and explain yourself properly Keith mcmaugh. Sophisticated writing is the opposite of sophistication. It is why we have so many sophisticated so called using nouns as verbs , verbs as nouns etc. It’s laziness and pretentious.

  26. I feel that a large portion of us in the U.S. are at a loss as to how to address the many, seemingly endless, issues before us.
    It’s feels as though almost everything that we’ve tried, has failed to steer policy towards a better nation, and planet.
    I think that if we want to really start exposing the truth and shaking up the powers at be, that we need to do one thing, repeatedly, until we are heard. I feel that this would also instantly expose those in
    “true” power, pulling the curtain back for all to see the truths we so desperately yearn for.
    CALL ( don’t write ) your representatives and demand that lobbying be instantly outlawed, along with doing away with Citizen’s United. We know that CU was based on a total lie, and most lawyers know this. We know that the Corporate State “owns” us, and it’s time we took that power back for good.
    If we call over and over and make these demands, I think that we can start a strong grassroots effor to force the change we need. Just my humble opinion…

  27. Hey, Larry C. Johnson … how come the news I’m hearing says the opposite? If the Russians have been doing so well, why haven’t they overrun the country yet? Why are they asking China for military aid? Why are they targeting civilians and trying to win the war with terror tactics instead of military force? Why should I believe you because you put some bio that for all I know is fake, but then that’s the MO of the CIA, lies, lies, and more lies.

  28. You fire on a convoy – you get hit back across the military technical menu. Orders like this only work that way. Civilian casualties? Yes, some casualties are inevitable, but it’s not our fault. We don’t storm cities according to the Charters, we bypass them or operate surgically with special forces, as in Kharkov. Using a previously unknown tactic of urban combat by night manoeuvre groups. We will talk about this separately.

    Let the Ukrainians marinate in the cities themselves, digesting the Banderites and the “territorial battalions” duped by Nazi propaganda. They can no longer cope with the looters, what kind of “reflection of aggression” is it? This is not our problem now, however harsh the words may sound.

    The final breakthrough will come after Kharkov is cleared, Odessa is blockaded or taken. All the heroic self-defence forces of the other settlements will dissipate on their own, and there are already clear signs of humanitarian disaster in the encircled cities. The morass, when it is scrupulously false, subsides most quickly in darkness, refreshing coolness and on an empty stomach.

    The population is not mentally prepared to stand their ground to the last, Ukrainian social media is already full of messages from places where local administrations have been left behind by the Russian army, food supplies are uninterrupted, street lights are on and local police are controlling the streets. With each passing day, the fake hysteria will subside and the drugged-out minds will wonder: what’s next?

    Will the encircled Banderites begin to brutalise in their powerless rage? Well, the Ukrainians also have to bear this cross on their own. Of course, we will try to do everything we can to rescue the children and the elderly. But Putin will not allow us to take sensitive losses, this is not that kind of war.

    We are not the ones who raised, nurtured and allowed to seize power and hostage an entire nation. We did not arm them and send them to kill Donbass and teach them to hate Russians. Criminal indifference and complicity are also a punishable act. Not by us, by life itself.

    https://southfront.org/without-hysterics-and-insults/

    1. No, the Russians have been instigating the separatist movement. People say NATO expansion is the problem. Well, it’s a tug of war and both side are involved. That isn’t what western media is saying, but after some examination of both sides, this is the conclusion I am coming to.

  29. Ok Chris, we got it. USA sucks, is always wrong, and should spend all of it’s time looking the mirror.

    1. @Vic Sage
      Despite the fact that you were being facetious, you’re inadvertently correct, if a bit overstated. The U.S. IS the dominant empire on the planet, makes the most war, kills the most people, and kills the Earth the most by consumption; and all of that by far. So yes, look in the mirror before obsessing on what others do.

      1. Still, what the Russians are doing cannot be supported. You can’t support murder and mayhem. Putin the fascist simply needs to coexist with NATO and if he feels threatened because it shows what an immoral pig he is, so be it, and maybe the Russian people will protest his rule and he will be deposed.

      2. To Tom,
        He was coexisting with NATO until it kept sneaking closer and closer to Russian borders …

  30. Maybe I don’t get the point, but from my POV, while the U.S. is evil, has done horrendous things, killed many innocents, bringing this up when talking about the Russians, minimizes what they’re doing.

    Anyone who can’t see that, has tunnel vision. No I don’t condone what the U.S. has done. I’ve read many books about it and have participated in protests. But we’re talking about the current war and you can’t justify it by saying NATO expansion is the cause. That expansion of NATO was into countries in eastern Europe were formerly under the thumb of the Soviet Union. Now, Russia wants a return to that hegemony. Thing is those countries don’t; they want to be part of NATO.

    So, don’t give me this crap that we caused it.

    1. @Tom, in a sense you are right. NATO expansion is not the only cause. I suspect you know nothing of the Wolyn massacre. If you have read “many books,” surely a page on a website will not be too much.

      https://justiceforpolishvictims.org/polish-experience/the-wolyn-massacre-77-years-ago-around-100000-poles-were-slaughtered-with-utmost-cruelty-by-ukrainian-nationalists/

      These are virtually the same Nazi groups that the US and the media have funded and empowered. If you cannot see the relevance of events in WWII to the invasion, then you have not watched Oliver Stoneʻs film “Ukraine on Fire” on Rumble or several other sites.

      Are you familiar with the 2019 Rand Report? It clearly explains the motives and tactics of the US in Ukraine. I suggest Diana Johnstoneʻs piece in Consortium News, “US Foreign Policy is a Cruel Sport.”

      https://consortiumnews.com/2022/02/23/diana-johnstone-us-foreign-policy-is-a-cruel-sport/

      The US wanted this war to happen. That has been the entire point of the NATO expansion and the placement of first-strike missile launchers in Romania and Poland and the construction of a major US base in Poland just 100 miles from the Russian border. The US was not going to stop provocations until this war happened.

      1. Jan: I am not familiar with the history you have discussed. It sounds like the MIC is up to their usual tricks, wanting another Cold War after getting out of Afghanistan.

        I was a CO against the war in Vietnam and oppose all wars. About the missiles, I didn’t know what or if we had totally removed them from Europe after the fall of the Soviet Union. I do recall way back during the Cuban Missile Crisis, the quid pro quo was for the U.S. to remove missiles from Turkey if the Russians removed them from Cuba. Maybe a similar deal could be made in this situation.

        I guess I should check out those references you cited.

        But I still can’t abide with the Russian advance into Ukraine — I did read a report from a military expert who said Russia is actually showing some restraint and only selectively targeting civilians as a terror tactic (which is abominable and absolutely a war crime). This is what angers me about all this justification of poor Putin protecting his billions and killing innocent people, if only selectively.

        But is the point of NATO expansion really the desire to start a war or do the countries of eastern Europe freely wish to become part of NATO? They apparently don’t want to be part of Russia. Maybe there are separatists but they’re not a majority, just like Trumpers in the U.S. are far from a majority but they make a lot of noise. So, why should we support these separatists?

        You know I do respect Oliver Stone, but no one is God and knows everything. I judge every situation on its merits and not some authority who claims to be like God. I like Chris but find him biased according to his beliefs. He never wavers in his POV, always sticking to the same mantra, which I believe is generally correct but every situation is different and if you take a position that can harm others, then it’s wrong. The end never justifies the means — that’s something I learned long ago from a philosophy teacher (who at the time I thought was being too conservative).

      2. Jan: Did you read Johnstone’s most recent opinion piece? Now, you can’t take what she says at face value, or at least I can’t, because I don’t know if she is being objective or if she has some agenda or tie to Putin because she paints him in very positive light.

        But for me what was telling is her concluding sentence: “The danger is that the Russians won’t be able to end this war, and the Americans will do all they can to keep it going.”

        What do you mean they won’t? They refuse. Stop the war and start negotiating. But they refuse to do that. Zelensky has called them out — but from Johnstone’s POV he’s more or less a puppet.

        An interesting point she made was the distinction of what a Nazi is in Ukraine — that is being a Nazi in Ukraine is being anti-Russian. Sure, the Cold War was a joke and a crisis created by the militant forces in both the U.S. and Soviets (Russia). They deposed Khrushchev because he tried to end the Cold War, and in the U.S., they killed JFK. And people are right in saying the MIC wants a war, a safe war which they can keep justifying.

        The thing is, the Russians can stop the war. It’s in the best interests of everyone but Putin. Sure, it’s capitulating for him, but Russia is at a disadvantage and its only trump card is the nuclear option, and that would be MAD.

        What I don’t like about her POV is her picture of Putin — Is it or is not true that he is a billionaire who has gained his wealth through his power as a dictator? I think we all can agree that is true because he has been in power for so long.

        You need to read behind the lines. While Johnstone is compelling, her POV is very one-sided and too partial to Putin.

    2. Good on Russia for finally going into that cesspool Ukraine. Oh, the evil of those bioweapons labs. Oh, the evil of Ukraine planning to go into eastern Ukraine for ethnic cleansing. Oh the great evil splat that is the USA and all the smoke and mirrors and evil sets in the Ukraine. Get over your density.

      1. To Paul+,
        Bioweapons labs in Ukraine – funded by the US. We do have our own, of course, but better to have them far away in case they leak, which they all do, eventually …

    3. Doesn’t justify murder and mayhem, SH. In fact, he wasn’t coexisting, he was stirring up trouble in Ukraine. What do you think the Donbas War was about. Russian interference in Ukraine.

      1. To Tom,
        The insurrection in Eastern Ukraine, primarily comprised of Ethnic Russians, was only after the US organized coup in ’14 of an elected Ukrainian Pres these folks had voted for – a Pres who made the mistake of siding with Russia instead of the EU with regard to economic issues. Over the next 8 years the Ukrainian army, including the Azov battalion, warred on the “insurrectionists” – So before that, yeah, they “co-existed”

    4. @Tom Calarco
      Your comments are totally hypocritical. Considering what the U.S. has done and is still doing, all the Russian invasion should elicit from Americans is a statement that the invasion was wrong. Then move on to opposing what the U.S. does and stop obsessing on what Russia does when your country does far more and far worse, and is still doing it! Hell, the U.S. is helping to cause a genocide in Yemen RIGHT NOW by arming and funding Saudi Arabia, and this crisis is exponentially worse than anything going on in Ukraine. Look in the mirror and stop being an Ugly American.

      1. @Tom Calarco
        No, that’s what YOU are talking about. I’m talking about your hypocrisy for obsessing on Russia and Putin instead of focusing on what the U.S. does. The extreme hysterical hypocritical gross overreaction to this invasion by the U.S. and the entire west is beyond words.

        You don’t live, pay taxes or vote in Russia, you do so in the U.S. You have no control or responsibility for what Russia does, so just say that the invasion was wrong and move on. Americans who do what you’re doing have absolutely no credibility.

      2. SH: That’s the Russian propaganda narrative. If the Ukrainian people believed that, they wouldn’t be fighting like they are. The Azov Battalion is a very small group and much less important than the Russians would have you believe.

  31. Jan, the Wolyn Massacre occurred during WW II — we need to move on. Do the Japanese bring up WW II and our use of the atomic bomb when discussing our current relations?

    I’ve learned that we should not regret the past but learn from it and move on. What matters is what we do today because it affects not only the present but the future. Taking out our vengeance on people who had nothing to do with something that happened before most of us were born it isn’t going to solve our problems today. It can only help us understand the situation better so that we don’t repeat the same mistake.

    So, you realize what country is helping the most refugees in this situation, don’t you — Poland. That certainly doesn’t cohere with the Russian narrative of NATO expansion, does it? They want to be in NATO, and the Wolyn Massacre shows you why.

    1. @Tom, The Wolyn massacre is not a random, irrelevant historical detail. It was the Ukrainian nationalist (Nazi) groups that killed 100,000 Poles between 1943 and 1945. These are the same groups with the same ideology that now wear the Nazi SS Wolfangel insignia on their uniforms and who venerate Stefan Bandera, the WWII Ukrainian Nazi who directed the massacres. They are the ones who are making WWII relevant here, not me. There are many, many recent articles even in the MSM linking modern Ukrainian “nationalists” with the Nazi ideology. They are the ones to be afraid of in Ukraine, not Putin. Do some reading.

      What Oliver Stone does in “Ukraine on Fire” is to document the role of the US in funding, training and organizing these Ukrainian Nazis. George Soros and his NGO was there in a major way. We made that coup in 2014. The Nazis were our agents, our allies.

      1. George Soros, the liberal bogeyman version of Koch. I hear that a lot. From what I’ve read the “Nazis” in Ukraine are a bit different from what we consider Nazis and that they are a small minority. I haven’t watched Oliver Stone’s documentary, but I hardly believe they are more dangerous than Putin. They didn’t start this war, and Putin is the one who did and instigated the Donbas War — the separatist White Russians (Ukraine Nazis) against the mixed race Russians. I’m not clear on this conflict within the country but the Wolyn massacre was perpetrated against the Poles not Ukrainians: “Between 1943 and 1945, Ukrainian nationalists attacked 99 Polish towns and villages in Wolyn, a Nazi-occupied region of Poland and is now part of Ukraine, and massacred thousands of Poles.”

      2. Reviewing a little further, it seems the problem with Nazis in Ukraine, which is a problem, is being used as an excuse by Putin to attack Ukraine. The Nazis, however, are very nationalistic like the MAGA patriots in the U.S. In fact, I found that they have a relationship. However, that doesn’t justify Putin attacking Ukraine. It’s a Ukrainian problem.

      3. @Tom, You seem to have a thing about Putin being this evil monster. It coincides with the demonizing of Putin on the major media. The media did the same thing with Qaddafi and Hussein to manipulate us into accepting invasions of their countries. If you think that you are not being manipulated, then you are perhaps not aware of the NATO report on cognitive warfare. The US government is using the media increasingly to make war on its own citizens – hate to say it, but you are pretty good proof that it works.

        https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/08/patrick-lawrence-the-casualties-of-empire/

        If you still think you are not being manipulated, ask yourself why a Pulitzer Prize winning reporter like Chris Hedges was forced out of the NYT, or why Robert Scheer no longer works for the LA Times. There has been a purge of dissenting voices, leaving you with nothing but media like Fox. One additional test. Ask yourself why you become so enraged at Putin but not so much at the leaders of a Zionist state that regularly massacres thousands of Palestinians in its periodic air campaigns, or at the leaders of Saudi Arabia who massacre many more innocent people in Yemen. Could it be that those are
        acceptable” massacres? You are being played.

        Hey, here is a right wing officer, a former military advisor in the Trump admin. This guy has something to say about Putin that contradicts your evil monster thing. You might expect would be big news in the NYT, but he is not with the program.

  32. How about all the atrocities done to African continent who will take responsibility. From Aids to Ebola to seven days. These are special miners decreases . How about slavery and artificial food shortages. Giving safe heaven for corrupt leaders’s loot and in turn giving same money’s as loan with high interest

    1. Yes, I do think Putin is evil. Just the bombing of the theater that killed 300 people justifies that label.

      You’re the one who is brainwashed because yes I usually go to Progressive and have read many things by Chris and other Progressive, Op-ed News, Counterpunch, lots of the same guys. I hear MSM. Putin is evil, a former KGB officer who finagled himself into a position of lifetime dictator who has become wealthy by stealing from the people of Russia. He is evil.

      1. Wow, so what evidence do you base your assertion? I don’t know about the Turkish mosque but I have seen plenty of other bombings on TV. Just the other day I saw a civilian car proceeding down a street and seeing a tank at the intersection, it stopped. The tank rounded the corner and fired on the car, blowing it literally to pieces. Was it staged? It’s possible.

        Neither of us have evidence one way or the other. We can only believe what we read in the press or see in the media. The fact remains, Putin started it, thousands are dying, and Ukraine is in rubble. No one can deny that and children have been killed. That’s unequivocal.

      2. @Tom Calarco
        Are you actually unaware of all the horrible things that the U.S. military has done and is still doing around the world? You’ve got to be kidding with these comments. This is an industrial war, of course there will be atrocities and civilians killed, that can’t be avoided. But Russia has been far more restrained than the U.S. ever is, which is why they haven’t accomplished their goals here yet. Get some perspective and quit parroting U.S. propaganda!

      3. @Tom Calarco
        I’m not going to get embroiled in this, except to say that Americans complaining about Putin being evil could not be more hypocritical. Look in the mirror, bub! Since the end of WWII, U.S. presidents have each killed more people than Putin ever has, and have each invaded other countries (directly or by proxy) with absolutely no justification. While I agree that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was also unjustified, I only do so because I’m anti-war, and if you’re truly anti-war you can’t make any exceptions. But as an American, you should be talking about all of the horrible things your country and your presidents do, not what others do. To paraphrase Jesus, fix yourself and quit complaining about other people. (And no, I’m not Christian.)

      4. You don’t get it, Jeff. I have been aware of this since the Pentagon Papers were published. Even before that. That’s not the point. You’re like talking to the wall.

      5. @Tom
        You’ve been aware that you’re a hypocrite since the Pentagon Papers? Don’t you think that it’s past time that you do something about that?

      6. Well, I did work in a nursing home instead of going into the service during Vietnam. That was something. I campaigned intensively in my locale for Bernie though his second campaign was misguided. So, why have you decided to start making this personal? And why are you defending Putin?

      7. Darn, some great talks and interviews, OUTSIDE, the echo ego chamber of Comments Posters:

        https://popularresistance.org/michael-hudson-us-dollar-hegemony-ended-abruptly-last-wednesday/

        By Margaret Flowers, Clearing the FOG.
        March 28, 2022

        On Wednesday, March 23, 2022, the United States announced that it would freeze Russia’s access to its gold. Russia has the fifth highest amount of gold in the world. Economist Michael Hudson explains that this action, which follows the US seizing Venezuela and Afghanistan’s gold and assets, has effectively ended dollar hegemony, which has been in decline in recent years, and the free ride that the US has enjoyed abroad. Hudson states that we are now in uncharted territory as nothing like this has occurred in modern history. Sanctions on Russia are driving a shortage of fertilizer, which will lower food production and bring famine. Hudson predicts greater inflation, particularly for food and fuel, and shortages, which are all good for Wall Street profits, and more businesses being forced to close.

  33. Jeff, either you’re a Russian bot or need to improve your critical thinking skills. I think I posted a podcast from Counterpunch, which is a far left site, in which the podcaster articulated very well the issue of Russian propaganda and explained in detail what is actually going on.

    But not only that, I heard a high level ex-KGB officer who defected to the U.S. explain on CNN the strategy of Putin and his history — now don’t give me the crap about MSM. While it is pro-U.S., they do present the truth in interviews by well-informed sources and on-the-spot videos, etc.

    What Russia does, does not mean the U.S. is not culpable for its acts of aggression. That’s a separate issue. You can’t ignore people dying and a country being destroyed because we did it elsewhere. Where is your brain? Your bias has clouded your thinking.

    I suppose the fact that Putin has been in power 15 years means nothing? He’s a ruthless dictator and his goal is to reassemble the Soviet Union.

    What pisses me off is that you think I don’t know the history of American imperialism. I’ve been reading about it since the late 1960s, so I’m well aware of what Chris Hedges is discussing. Yes, we have a permanent war economy. Ever read Dean Acheson or George F. Kennan? Ever read any of the tell-all books about the CIA by Philip Agee or Victor Marchetti, or books by David Wise and Fletcher Prouty. Please don’t tell me I need a different perspective; it apparently is different than yours because you are blinded by Russian propaganda. Yes, we are the evil empire but it doesn’t make Putin any less evil.

    1. It’s not nice to call people a bot when they are clearly not. A bot is a robot. If you think somebody is a paid comment writer…

      1. @Moderator
        If you’re offering to pay me to write these comments, I accept! I could use the money. 🙂

    2. @Tom
      Counterpunch USED to be a left critique of corporate/establishment media. It has become what it used to critique, and that happened before the Russian invasion.

      Why would an ex-KGB officer who defected to the U.S. have any credibility? He obviously hates Russia and is extremely biased. People who come here from places like Russia and China tend to be more right wing than people born here, and I’m not interested in what they have to say. On the other hand, YOU need to watch the Lee Camp interview and the Aaron Mate interview with Scott Ritter, and the interview with retired top Pentagon adviser Colonel McGregor to learn “what is actually going on.” You’re throwing U.S. propaganda at me and expecting me to be brainwashed by it like you are. Not going to happen. I fully realize that what comes out of Russia is propaganda, just like what comes out of the U.S. is, but that’s irrelevant. I’ve heard almost no Russian propaganda regarding this war; my information comes from trusted sources, mainly award-winning reporters who are not beholden to the establishment and/or corporate America. All reporters have their biases, but at least the people I listen to are honest and know what they’re talking about.

      The fact that you think that mainstream media presents the truth shows how lost and brainwashed you are. That crap is far more propaganda than anything, albeit the most sophisticated propaganda on the planet. I can see that they got you bub. You’re so brainwashed that you can’t see reality, even when it’s right in your face. I’ve said multiple times here that I oppose Russia’s invasion because I’m anti-war. How you could twist that into being Russian propaganda is beyond me.

      It’s YOU who doesn’t get the point: As an American, all you should have done is state that you oppose the invasion. If you want to oppose this type of thing, you should have move on to oppose all the U.S. crap, like its ongoing genocide in Yemen by arming and funding Saudi Arabia, its occupation of 1/3 of Syria and ongoing theft of its oil, and its ongoing bombing of Somalia. We don’t live, vote, or pay taxes in Russia, so we have no control over nor responsibility for what it does. Obsessing on Russia is just hypocritical BS. If I lived in Russia I’d probably be one of those who was arrested for protesting against the invasion, but I don’t live there, I live here.

      And your obsession with Putin is the result of more brainwashing, probably starting with all the Russiagate BS. Each U.S. president in our lifetimes has killed more people than Putin, so how is Putin so evil? Again, can’t see reality because of brainwashing.

      1. I am not obsessed with Putin. I base my opinion of what is happening in Ukraine right now — the murder and mayhem. Based on your POV which is the Russian side claiming provocation, you could equate this to Will Smith smacking Chris Rock — just not right. I believe, however, that Russia instigated this war, and why wouldn’t a former high-level KGB officer’s opinion be relevant? Why has NATO grown, why did all those former nations that were part of the Soviet Union not return? You don’t see them siding with Russia, do you? You think Putin is not a dictator? How does someone stay in power like him for 15 years and amass billions of dollars in wealth unless they are a dictator?

        Like I said, this is a separate issue from American imperialism. Two wrongs don’t make a right; you don’t kill people because you feel your power is threatened. Everything you are saying is exactly what Russian propaganda is presenting. Did you watch the Counterpunch podcast and what makes you think it is presenting American propaganda — have you read any of their articles lately?

        You’re a scumbag who sanctions the killing of innocent people. I have never sanctioned American aggression. I was against the Vietnam War, the Iraq War, the War in Afghanistan. I believe the CIA and MIC killed JFK and orchestrated 9-11 and participated in protest against war. Protested vehemently, wrote about it, when they defrauded and cheated Bernie. And have never said it was okay to kill anyone and worked in a nursing home because of this. But you support a dictator and murder. You think it’s okay to fight a war because another country fought a war. As JFK said, war will never cease until we all become conscientious objectors — yes he said this in his peace speech and a few months later he was killed. No one attacked Russia; they have no right to go in and kill innocent people and target civilians. Did you see that video that showed a tank blowing up a civilian car?

      2. @Tom
        Even though he never said it and it’s not true anyway, you are the wrongly-claimed Einstein’s definition of insanity: you keep saying the same false things, like I support Putin & Russia, even though I’ve said multiple times that I do not. I’m done with you, this is like arguing with the wall.

  34. Thanks to God Russia is taking out dirty bomb ZioLensky. Oh, the amazingly daft commentators at Scheer Report. Murdering Ukis are going down… supposedly righteous and legal from USA/UK POV but not not when two Chancey Gardeners are at the helm of UkiNazi Unkraine and AmeriKKKa.

    Scott Ritter at Consortium News.

    While it might be in vogue for people, organizations, and governments in the West to embrace the knee-jerk conclusion that Russia’s military intervention constitutes a wanton violation of the United Nations Charter and, as such, constitutes an illegal war of aggression, the uncomfortable truth is that, of all the claims made regarding the legality of pre-emption under Article 51 of the United Nations Charter, Russia’s justification for invading Ukraine is on solid legal ground.

  35. In his recent 42m interview with Jimmy Dore, Chris Hedges mentioned the plight of the U.S. working class and suggested there was enough tinder in place to spark a revolution ….but these past two years have proven he does not want to be a player in any working class revolution … and unlike truly fearless journalists Glenn Greenwald, Abby Martin and Max Blumenthal, he will not take sides …I’ve read all but one of his books, watched all of his VIDs here on YouTube, subscribed to his ScheerPosts and I regularly watched his show ON CONTACT on RT … I know what he stands for – or at least what he says he stands for … and I believe he is forever obligated to stand behind his publicly-stated words and principles … I also feel obligated to hold him to account because it seems his followers would never dare do so … they comport themselves as cult members – Chris can do no wrong and they can find no fault …He has spoken on the importance of grassroots activism many times … he has consistently encouraged us to resist tyranny even when things look bleak …In a 2021 speech he said we actually “become free” by merely resisting tyranny … Here’s one of his more damning quotes:”Let us stand up and resist so future generations will at least say ‘they tried.’ We cannot do this alone … (Truthdig needs your solidarity and support) … Together we have a chance” …Ok, so what has he done for the working class since the lockdown was declared in March 2020? …1) HE HAS NOT COMMENTED ON MANDATES & PASSPORTS … Although he has spoken on the global politics of COVID, he has still not taken a stand on the working class issues posed by the illegal and unconstitutional mandates and passports … Phizer CEO Albert Bourla recently admitted the VAX is “not very good against infections and does not last very long” … but when asked to comment on the vaccinations in a recent interview with Krystal and Kyle, Chris ignored the data that supported increasing breakthrough rates and said “I don’t think we’re going to stop the pandemic and the mutations until everybody gets vaccinated” … that’s not true and he knows it! … he also made this comment just a few weeks after a FOIA request forced Phizer to release its initial trial data that revealed that over 1200 participants died within the first 10 weeks after getting jabbed … and when Jimmy asked Chris to comment on the VAX, he conveniently redirected the discussion back to COVID global politics … I was also disappointed that Jimmy did not ask him THE big follow-up question: “why have you never commented on the VAX until now?” …2) HE HAS NOT COMMENTED ON THE TRUCKER CONVOYS …In a 2020 interview, he said he told indigenous pipeline protesters to “park your cars in their path, remove the engines and walk away” … but in early January something happened … Canadian truckers formed a convoy and convoys were then organized in the U.S. and other countries … thousands of trucks and many thousands of people participated ALL OVER THE WORLD! … but they were quickly and unfairly stigmatized as being too far-right and too republican … the MSM chose to either not cover them or smear them by saying the organizers were “right-wing extremists” who wore swastikas and promoted vandalism and violence … when asked to comment at the end of this interview, Chris was sympathetic to the plight of the Canadian truckers, but so what? … this is the first time he has publicly commented on these protests … weeks ago when the protests were at their peak, Chris was nowhere to be found … and don’t forget that a U.S. trucker convoy was organized on the heels of the Ottawa protests … the MSM blacked them out and so did Chris … the trucker convoys actually presented an opportunity to unite the working class right and left, and it would have been awesome for a major independent media figure like Chris to at least admit as much … but he chose to hide his head and not say a word about these courageous people, some of which are still in jail and/or have had their personal bank accounts illegally frozen … they followed his advice, practiced his principles and paid the price … beneath it all, the goals of the convoys were to compel the govt to drop the mandates and abandon vax passports … Chris could have written an article, made a comment on his Twitter page or consented to an interview on this topic, but it was all beneath him …3) HE HAS NOT COMMENTED ON THE GREAT RESET …The GREAT RESET is an attempt to diminish the power of the working class and to my knowledge, Chris has never had a word to say about it, the World Economic Forum or its founder Klaus Schwab … I find this very revealing and rather amazing … and most surprisingly, he has never commented on the book THE FOURTH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, which presents the WEF’s plan for re-engineering society … one excerpt from this book quotes Schwab as saying living standards after HIS reset “will enable new forms of surveillance and other means of control that run counter to healthy, open societies” … independent media figures have been reluctant to comment and Chris is no exception … you can read reviews of the book on Amazon …I’m disappointed in Chris because I once admired him so much … he’s said many awesome, memorable things that helped me understand and accept our current predicament, but since the lockdown was declared he has offered nothing on what we the people can do to fight back and resist … in my world, he is no longer an activist … he’s now morphed into a cherry-picking elitist … since losing his position with RT, Chris has claimed that he cannot continue his work without our support and I believe him … but I will not help him survive professionally if he will not take the professional risks needed to help the working class …Here’s my current list of fearless independent journalists, political analysts, commentators and whistle-blowers …In no particular order:- Glenn Greenwald- Max Blumenthal- Dan Cohen- Kim Iversen- Aaron Mate- Abby Martin- Jimmy Dore- Karen Kingston- Stew Peters- Jordan Chariton- Dr Robert Malone- Dr Peter McCullough- Dr Michael Yeadon- Catherine Austin-Fitts- Lt. Col. Stuart Sheller- Former Amazon VP Tim Bray- Former FDA Officials Philip Krause, Marion Gruber- Australian Journalist Maria ZeeeThe list goes on and on … but Chris is no longer on it … last year Lt. Col. Stuart Sheller took an incredibly courageous stand by demanding our military Generals be accountable for their actions in Afghanistan …he posted a 5m video here on YT knowing it could result in jail time and the loss of his military benefits … and only afterward did he tell his wife!

    1. Your lengthy criticism of Chris Hedges I am taking as a way of saying we need to read and follow multiple sources and not to subscribe to one. Any one person when put on a pedestal will fall due to being human and having imperfections. Personally, I look for the humanity in leaders and Hedges has ample humanity. However, I think your message of multiple sources of independent and grassroots information, if that is what you are trying to impart, is a good one. We cannot put our faith in one or even a few leaders due to imperfections as well as being a target for the deep state to defame or even eliminate them.

      1. @Larry Hanson
        What Douglas G Carlson”s criticism of Hedges means, as I’ve told him, is that he has certain pet issues and he’s upset that Hedges didn’t comment on them. I agree that we need multiple sources of information. We also need to think critically, to be skeptical, and to not just believe everything that those we generally agree with say. But that’s not what Carlson is saying, and I couldn’t disagree with his criticism more.

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