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Nuland-Pyatt Tape Removed From YouTube After 8 Years

The most watched version, with subtitles, suddenly was made unavailable on Wednesday. The tape provides the smoking gun of U.S. involvement in 2014 Kiev coup. (Read the transcript).

By Joe Lauria / Consortium News

The smoking gun proving U.S. involvement in the 2014 coup in Kiev has been removed from YouTube after eight years.

The two talk about “midwifing” the unconstitutional change of government and “gluing it together” and of the role then Vice President Joe Biden should play and what meetings to set up with Ukrainian politicians.

The U.S. State Department never denied the authenticity of the video, and even issued an apology to the European Union after Nuland is heard on the tape saying, “Fuck the E.U.” Mainstream media at the time focused almost exclusively on that off-color remark, ignoring the greater significance of U.S. interference in Ukraine’s internal affairs.

Editor’s Note: The tape that this article references has since been restored to YouTube. Read more about it here.

Consortium News has numerous times embedded the YouTube video in articles about the overthrow of Yanukovych. CN successfully embedded it earlier this week in an article now being written, but on Wednesday the video suddenly appeared this way in the draft article: 

The video was posted on April 29, 2014 and had 181,533 views before it was taken down, the most viewed version of the conversation on YouTube. Eight years worth of comments on the video have also been removed.

This is a screenshot taken earlier from the video that has now been removed.  The same video can be viewed on Rumble here.

Timing of Removal

The removal of a video that had existed online for eight years raises major questions as it comes during the war in Ukraine. Corporate media has studiously avoided mentioning the causes of the current conflict, including NATO eastward expansion, the rejected Moscow treaty proposals in December, the civil war in Donbass and the 2014 coup in Kiev that led to the Donbass uprising and violent repression by the coup government.

The coup in 2014 is the starting point that led to all these events culminating in Russia’s invasion in February. Removing the video would be consistent with the suppression of any information that falls outside the enforced narrative of events in Ukraine, including whitewashing any mention of the U.S.-backed coup.

Transcript Still Online

The BBC on Feb. 7, 2014 — 14 days before Yanukovych was toppled — published a transcript of the Nuland-Pyatt conversation. Consortium News is republishing the transcript here, lest it be removed from the internet as well:

Warning: This transcript contains swearing.

Voice thought to be Nuland’s: What do you think?

Voice thought to be Pyatt’s: I think we’re in play. The Klitschko [Vitaly Klitschko, one of three main opposition leaders] piece is obviously the complicated electron here. Especially the announcement of him as deputy prime minister and you’ve seen some of my notes on the troubles in the marriage right now so we’re trying to get a read really fast on where he is on this stuff. But I think your argument to him, which you’ll need to make, I think that’s the next phone call you want to set up, is exactly the one you made to Yats [Arseniy Yatseniuk, another opposition leader]. And I’m glad you sort of put him on the spot on where he fits in this scenario. And I’m very glad that he said what he said in response.

Nuland: Good. I don’t think Klitsch should go into the government. I don’t think it’s necessary, I don’t think it’s a good idea.

Pyatt: Yeah. I guess… in terms of him not going into the government, just let him stay out and do his political homework and stuff. I’m just thinking in terms of sort of the process moving ahead we want to keep the moderate democrats together. The problem is going to be Tyahnybok [Oleh Tyahnybok, the other opposition leader] and his guys and I’m sure that’s part of what [President Viktor] Yanukovych is calculating on all this.

Nuland: [Breaks in] I think Yats is the guy who’s got the economic experience, the governing experience. He’s the… what he needs is Klitsch and Tyahnybok on the outside. He needs to be talking to them four times a week, you know. I just think Klitsch going in… he’s going to be at that level working for Yatseniuk, it’s just not going to work.

Pyatt: Yeah, no, I think that’s right. OK. Good. Do you want us to set up a call with him as the next step?

Nuland: My understanding from that call – but you tell me – was that the big three were going into their own meeting and that Yats was going to offer in that context a… three-plus-one conversation or three-plus-two with you. Is that not how you understood it?

Pyatt: No. I think… I mean that’s what he proposed but I think, just knowing the dynamic that’s been with them where Klitschko has been the top dog, he’s going to take a while to show up for whatever meeting they’ve got and he’s probably talking to his guys at this point, so I think you reaching out directly to him helps with the personality management among the three and it gives you also a chance to move fast on all this stuff and put us behind it before they all sit down and he explains why he doesn’t like it.

Nuland: OK, good. I’m happy. Why don’t you reach out to him and see if he wants to talk before or after.

Pyatt: OK, will do. Thanks.

Nuland: OK… one more wrinkle for you Geoff. [A click can be heard] I can’t remember if I told you this, or if I only told Washington this, that when I talked to Jeff Feltman [United Nations Under-Secretary-General for Political Affairs] this morning, he had a new name for the UN guy Robert Serry did I write you that this morning?

Pyatt: Yeah I saw that.

Nuland: OK. He’s now gotten both Serry and [UN Secretary General] Ban Ki-moon to agree that Serry could come in Monday or Tuesday. So that would be great, I think, to help glue this thing and to have the UN help glue it and, you know, Fuck the EU.

Pyatt: No, exactly. And I think we’ve got to do something to make it stick together because you can be pretty sure that if it does start to gain altitude, that the Russians will be working behind the scenes to try to torpedo it. And again the fact that this is out there right now, I’m still trying to figure out in my mind why Yanukovych (garbled) that. In the meantime there’s a Party of Regions faction meeting going on right now and I’m sure there’s a lively argument going on in that group at this point. But anyway we could land jelly side up on this one if we move fast. So let me work on Klitschko and if you can just keep… we want to try to get somebody with an international personality to come out here and help to midwife this thing. The other issue is some kind of outreach to Yanukovych but we probably regroup on that tomorrow as we see how things start to fall into place.

Nuland: So on that piece Geoff, when I wrote the note [US vice-president’s national security adviser Jake] Sullivan’s come back to me VFR [direct to me], saying you need [US Vice-President Joe] Biden and I said probably tomorrow for an atta-boy and to get the deets [details] to stick. So Biden’s willing.

Pyatt: OK. Great. Thanks.

Joe Lauria

Joe Lauria is editor-in-chief of Consortium News and a former U.N. correspondent for The Wall Street Journal, Boston Globe, and numerous other newspapers, including The Montreal Gazette and The Star of Johannesburg. He was an investigative reporter for the Sunday Times of London, a financial reporter for Bloomberg News and began his professional work as a 19-year old stringer for The New York Times.  He can be reached at joelauria@consortiumnews.com and followed on Twitter @unjoe 

23 comments

  1. Ahh, all those radical techies haven’t figured out how to break YouTube’s codes and just transfer that CIA channel’s video into a translator and then, bam, there is a video in another format. I guess, all the lies of the Empire of Lies, Terror, Chaos need to be rejiggered into Power Points with all their ugly faces and audio recordings of their Satanic voices embedded. Ahh, the WWW, and the permancy of it all (sic). Agnotology through the Ministry of Misinformation, Misdeeds, and Madison Avenue.

    Goofy Atlantic Magazine piece, and misses really who designed the so-called Internet, but, here, a pulled quote:

    This absence of central control, or even easy central monitoring, has long been celebrated as an instrument of grassroots democracy and freedom. It’s not trivial to censor a network as organic and decentralized as the internet. But more recently, these features have been understood to facilitate vectors for individual harassment and societal destabilization, with no easy gating points through which to remove or label malicious work not under the umbrellas of the major social-media platforms, or to quickly identify their sources. While both assessments have power to them, they each gloss over a key feature of the distributed web and internet: Their designs naturally create gaps of responsibility for maintaining valuable content that others rely on. Links work seamlessly until they don’t. And as tangible counterparts to online work fade, these gaps represent actual holes in humanity’s knowledge.

    Before today’s internet, the primary way to preserve something for the ages was to consign it to writing—first on stone, then parchment, then papyrus, then 20-pound acid-free paper, then a tape drive, floppy disk, or hard-drive platter—and store the result in a temple or library: a building designed to guard it against rot, theft, war, and natural disaster. This approach has facilitated preservation of some material for thousands of years. Ideally, there would be multiple identical copies stored in multiple libraries, so the failure of one storehouse wouldn’t extinguish the knowledge within. And in rare instances in which a document was surreptitiously altered, it could be compared against copies elsewhere to detect and correct the change.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2021/06/the-internet-is-a-collective-hallucination/619320/

  2. It’s incredible to me that ‘they’ fear carbon emissions more than they do nukes. The left used to be anti-war and the right war mongers. Please help us Bob.

    1. @Bishop Penster
      If you have slack, you know that Bob won’t help. If you don’t, you’re a Pink and there’s no help for you.

  3. The censorship by the national security state and the social media platforms they control to keep the American public ignorant of the events that preceded the war in Ukraine suggests that we live in a military junta that advertises itself as a democracy. The blatantly illegal prosecution of Julian Assange is further proof of this.

  4. Another of Putin’s missed opportunities.

    A little polonium would have been ideal: a short diplomatic kerfuffle an that would have been it.

  5. This is great! Thank you, Joe!
    LOL! no wonder they took it off! It blows away most of the “Western” BS that blankets our airwaves these days ..

  6. All of this happened under Obama who was as war hungry as every Democrat or Republican in recent history that came before or after him….He was the only one of the lot who could speak English properly….But that was about it!

  7. Good one. Okay. Got it downloaded and will share it around. 🙂
    More proof the poor bloody soldiers and victims are all doing the will of the USA …

  8. Fun fact:

    The link provided in the text above to the supposedly removed video leads to “Diddley Squat” YouTube channel.

    If you google-search “Nuland-Pyatt conversation”, one of the first search result is – surprise surprise – that conversation – subtitles, comments, and all – in that same channel!

    So much for the ‘censorship’ conspiratorial nonsense!

    Maybe Scheerpost needs to start fact-checking its publications?!?!?!?!

    How Embarrassing!
    HOW Embarrassing!!!

  9. There is even more incriminating document proving that US ran and is running Ukraine and it came from 2015 letter of US senator Durbin to PM Yatsynuk where Durbin pushes Yats to make specific Ukrainian cabinet personnel changes. In fact trying to oppose (President) Poroshenko decisions, move some of UkroNazis from spotlight of western press while pushing US promoted operatives including ministerial positions in energy sectors.
    https://pp.userapi.com/c622923/v622923430/3876b/YnBpLyzfxXg.jpg

  10. The so called “U.S. involvement in the 2014 coup in Kiev” is a Russian propaganda fantasy concocted in Putin’s demented mind and parroted shamelessly, and with no evidence, let alone rudimentary inquiry or investigative follow-up by Left-ish Neo Progressive pundits and flock.

    The Ukrainian Maiden Revolution of 2014, an organic protest that resulted in the impeachment of a sitting president was not a coup by any definition of the word – it was neither sudden, nor violent, nor illegal seizure of power, and while the US supported it, its involvement in it was exclusively advisory and after the fact.

    “In November 2013, a wave of large-scale protests (known as Euromaidan) erupted in response to President Yanukovych’s sudden decision not to sign a political association and free trade agreement with the European Union (EU), instead choosing closer ties to Russia and the Eurasian Economic Union. In February of that year, the Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian parliament) had overwhelmingly approved of finalizing the agreement with the EU. Russia had put pressure on Ukraine to reject it. These protests continued for months and their scope widened, with calls for the resignation of Yanukovych and the Azarov Government. Protesters opposed what they saw as widespread government corruption and abuse of power, the influence of oligarchs, police brutality, and violation of human rights in Ukraine. Repressive anti-protest laws fuelled further anger. A large, barricaded protest camp occupied Independence Square in central Kyiv throughout the ‘Maidan Uprising’.

    In January and February 2014, clashes in Kyiv between rioters and Berkut special riot police resulted in the deaths of 108 protesters and 13 police officers, and the wounding of many others. The first rioters were killed in fierce clashes with police on Hrushevsky Street on 19–22 January. Following this, rioters occupied government buildings throughout the country. The deadliest clashes were on 18–20 February, which saw the most severe violence in Ukraine since it regained independence. Thousands of rioters advanced towards parliament, led by activists with shields and helmets, and were fired on by police snipers. On 21 February, an agreement between President Yanukovych and the leaders of the parliamentary opposition was signed that called for the formation of an interim unity government, constitutional reforms and early elections. The following day, police withdrew from central Kyiv, which came under effective control of the protesters. Yanukovych fled the city and then the country. That day, the Ukrainian parliament voted to remove Yanukovych from office by 328 to 0 (72.8% of the parliament’s 450 members).” (an excerpt from the Wikipedia page on the matter).

    Yanukovych ouster, than, was not only a direct result of his own actions – disregarding democratic decisions of parliament, his own exceedingly violent response to (initially) peaceful protests and his escape from Kiev after sharpshooting more than 100 Ukrainians – but was brought to bear through an absolute majority vote of Ukraine elected officials, who also immediately set a date for new elections.

    As to the supposed US ‘interference’, the idea that the excerpt from a single conversation “provides the smoking gun of U.S. involvement in 2014 Kiev coup” is a demagogic joke.

    The conversation took place towards the end of the protests, which should exclude any possibility that it, on its own, implicates the US in the planning of the events. It contains no information on the actual actions taken by the people involved, or whether there was any follow up with Ukrainian opposition leaders, or if the items discussed in the conversation had any impact, or whether the proposals mentioned were anything other than two diplomats discussing possibilities rather than plotting the next actions in a preconceived plot to overthrow a pro-Russian president.

    Furthermore, the complete absence of ANY corroborating evidence, or indeed, even a rudimentary attempt to unearth more information on the matter is not only a glaring indication of the amateurish nature of this piece of Russian propaganda BS, but a serious refutation and condemnation of the (supposed) zeal and skill of left-ish, Neo Progressive so called ‘truth seeking’ goal and mission.

    1. Amazing smart animal, Democracy (sic) Gone (when was there any?) Astray (planned by the companies?). So, get me to your YouTube Channel, something, some white paper, a news piece, some research paper you’ve written. Hurry up. I can’t take all the “propaganda.”

      https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Why-the-Ukraine-Crisis-Is.pdf

      Why the Ukraine Crisis Is the West’s Fault –The Liberal Delusions That Provoked Putin
      John J. Mearsheimer

      1. @ Paul+Haeder

        I am familiar with the article and the author.

        First off, on the topic of the Maiden Revolution, the article provides no additional information to support the Russian ‘coup’ fantasy.

        As for the linked article as a whole, there are two principles the article, and the left-ish Neo Progressive narrative concerning the Russian-Ukraine war in general, subsumes but fails to state. The first is that a country has the right to go to war in circumstances other than strict self defense (‘strict’ here means that the country was actually attacked militarily), as well as unilaterally, and unchallenged, determine such circumstances. The second is that if a country is powerful enough, it has the right to obstruct militarily the political, economic and military freedoms of other sovereign countries it finds central and essential to its own security or economic and political well being.

        Without these two underlining principles the left-ish Neo Progressive defense of Putin’s fantasies, demagoguery and propaganda crumbles.

      2. Democracy Gone Astray,

        1.Paul+Haeder provides you the Mearsheimer lecture, “Why the Ukraine Crisis Is the West’s Fault.”
        2. You say you are familiar with it, but your post suggests you you don’t understand it.
        3. You error is demonstrated in this (your) misinterpretation of it’s thesis: “… that a country has the right to go to war in circumstances … as well as unilaterally, and unchallenged, determine such circumstances.”

        Mearsheimer in fact bases none of his thinking on “rights.” Rights, to Mearsheimer, are peripheral. Rather he focuses on, and explains; power. Power, (according to Kotkin) is capabilities + will. It is distinct from rights.

        (I am sure you’ve watched the video of the Mearsheimer lecture, where he jauntily intones, “If I advised Iran … or N. Korea … I would tell them to get nuclear weapons and NEVER negotiate them away!” Mearsheimer is about how things actually happen and thus what a wise nation needs to be wary of. To paraphrase Clint Eastwood as Billy Munny killing Little Bill in, “Unforgiven,” “Rights got nothing to do with it.”)

        The West is responsible for the crisis because the West’s actions directly tested & retested the capabilities + will of power over 30 years, in this case using Ukraine as a proxy. The West underestimated Russia’s will, the results are ongoing.
        ~~

        P.S. Though I do not share your confusion, I do feel your pain over “rights” and military violence. The place to review that issue is not Mearsheimer but the work of Thomas Aquinas on “Just War.” There are seven parameters, please review those.

    2. Democracy Gone Astray –

      Let me be the first to congratulate you on your reckless funhouse mirror cut’n past mishmash of biased sources, concerning the events surrounding the Maidan protest’s US backed & funded coup of 2014. Enjoy the warmth and comfort of the sand in which you have buried your head. My suggestions for your future agitprop comment posts is that you be less obviously ideological, avoid the juvenile pratfall of invoking Pres Putin as automatic bogeyman, and refrain from including easily debunked timeline distortions and factual errors. You may also wish to consider a username that includes one or more uses of “eagle” or “patriot.” Thanks for listening and good luck.

      1. @C. Kent

        Can you at least pretend that you understand what “corroborating evidence” means?

      2. Democracy Gone Astray –

        Ironically (for Joe Lauria & this article), the video is in fact still up via the link in this piece, did you check? Of course you did, you seek the truth. Here the link:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k

        In it Victoria Nuland speaks to Ambassador Pyat about who will have the government power in Ukraine (as has been well understood since it was first published). Nuland declares that Arseniy Yatsenyuk will be Prime Minister, Pyat notes that the ultranationalist leader of Svoboda Party Oleh Tyahnybok will cause them some problems, etc. Talk about prescience, the far right in Ukraine of course started a civil war, by attempting ethnic cleansing in Donbas, the results of which we deal with today. Thanks for reading my reply to you I look forward to future exchanges.
        ~~
        Please reread my suggestions to you in my original reply, re better agitprop. You can do better. I suggest you learn that saying less says more. Thanks for listening and good luck extracting your head from that sand.

  11. Another one down the memory hole. This disappearance by Gootube, subsidiary of Goolag, represents the systematic bit burning by Big Brother Tech’s ministry of truth that has been coordinated and consolidated since the 2020 covid coup. With which many crying foul upon war’s continuing crackdown have been complicit, both by silent support and active collaboration of the plandemic’s propaganda war. Such selective criticism represents no real resistance to the totalitarian system threatening us all.

    What we don’t know is killing us: The urgency of propaganda study under COVID
    https://propagandainfocus.com/what-we-dont-know-is-killing-us-the-urgency-of-propaganda-study-under-covid/

  12. Joe Lauria says, “The video was posted on April 29, 2014 and had 181,533 views before it was taken down, the most viewed version of the conversation on YouTube. Eight years worth of comments on the video have also been removed.” The words “taken down” contain a link:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k

    This link in fact works as of 5pm Friday the 27th May, and presents the video in question, with 198k+ views, and comments as old as 7+ years. I wrote Joe Lauria about it, Scheerpost ought to take this whole article down except it stands as a sort of measure of how incompetent people are at checking a story.

  13. Just keep your mouth shut and you’ll be OK. Don’t make us open a file on you.

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